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Old 17th March 2022, 14:29   #1
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Tip of the iceberg here I think (pardon the pun in advance):-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60779001

Not surprised that the crews are angry. I had a similar experience and it takes a lot of getting over. Not even a thank you from my old boss but at least it was face to face. I got it all in writing, an enhanced redundancy and a chance to slam the door on the way out but it still cut deep.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...become-reality
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Old 17th March 2022, 17:03   #2
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Sounds like wrongful dismissal to me. Unless of course the existing (old) employees do not have the usual protective status. If so, they have already lost the battle. If the gangway is dropped they will be evicted and the boat re-staffed before sailing off into the wide blue.

The identities or origins of the supposed replacements seem undisclosed and therefore their status is unclear. Whatever, it's no way to behave. We are all in danger of becoming a pirate nation with no redress in law compared to whatever has gone before. The only rule is the old rules do not apply. Last ring of defence? HM Coastguard.

Once you've lost your job by this method it is impossible to recover your position. The demise of such a company can only be blamed on the management, who will do almost anything to preserve whatever assets they might be able to retain. Witness High Street closures of major stores. A collection of parentless chancers. Possibly.
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A shameful and cowardly way to treat the staff!

I'm lost for words to be honest.

One can only hope that those who have lost their jobs are very quickly re employed and by companies that respect their workforce.
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I seem to recall that if one was made redundant it was the role not the employee that was lost and an employer could not simply hire someone else on lesser terms. That was the case with my past employers, although I was never affected in such a way.

Trick is, if one is thinking of a ferry crossing run by P&O, then an alternative should be sort and the reason why be provided.

This stinks whatever though.
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A shameful and cowardly way to treat the staff!

I'm lost for words to be honest.

One can only hope that those who have lost their jobs are very quickly re employed and by companies that respect their workforce.

I agree wholeheartedly.


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I seem to recall that if one was made redundant it was the role not the employee that was lost and an employer could not simply hire someone else on lesser terms. That was the case with my past employers, although I was never affected in such a way.

Trick is, if one is thinking of a ferry crossing run by P&O, then an alternative should be sort and the reason why be provided.

This stinks whatever though.

Also, does redundancy on a large scale not require formal consultations with employees and their representatives?
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Depends on the country of origin. And is a movable feast.
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I was replaced by a young lady, straight out of uni, employed in a position with a different name, doing my exact job, in the same place, with the same people! She lasted approximately six weeks before running home to mummy! I would not have gone back anyway! I've never set foot in the place since. I ended up having CBT which "saved me"! Happily retired now.
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Old 18th March 2022, 08:48   #8
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From my experience plenty of discussions occurred. Colleagues who matched the criteria left with most generous packages of redundancy terms. One chap reckoned it was like winning the lottery, wheelbarrows were not provided by the company though.

Part of the problem in the UK is we want a Rolls Royce but are only prepared to pay Dacia prices. Its been like that for as long as I can remember.

I see there are two threads on this sensitive subject, perhaps someone can merge them or whatever?
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I fear the main reason this has been done in this way is where the control is coming from. Some regimes do not have the respect for employees, nor the priorities that might exist if that control was based in the United Kingdom.
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Our employment laws are weak, this should be illegal. This is not part of the vision of Brexit, high skill, high wage economy, itís the opposite. Government talk a good race, but rarely deliver, perhaps they should just blame the EU!
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