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Old 22nd February 2022, 23:44   #91
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At that speed, I imagine that your bike is a 125cc.

How can you make progress and achieve safe overtakes?

Ouch - mean man!!!!!

It's a Kawasaki VN750!

What's overtaking?
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Old 22nd February 2022, 23:50   #92
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What's overtaking?
some may call it filtering perhaps ......... just saying
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Old 23rd February 2022, 08:13   #93
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Travelled the A14 yesterday both directions through around 8 miles of roadworks either side off the carrige way.

East bound the limit was 50mph, which I observed No one working and I was passed numerous time as if the limit was not there. Two of them were hgvs.

West bound it starts off at 50mph then drops to 40mph. Again I stuck to the limit, again I was passed numerous times. Again no workmen. Probably working at night.

Oh for speed cameras.

Genuinely.
Conversely, one could say the limits were unnecessary?

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Old 23rd February 2022, 08:47   #94
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Conversely, one could say the limits were unnecessary?

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This is sort of why I think there's something of "cry wolf" (or, heaven forbid, revenue generation) going on.

The HGV's (and other motorists) who doubtless go up and down this road umpteen times a day, see that there's nothing happening, no works being done and no one there so just drive on as if there's nothing happening, no works being done and no one there and, therefore, conclude that there's no good reason for the reduction in speed limit.

It might not be right, but I can see why it happens.

And worse, if something does happen then the mindset is already "...this is just a sign, there's nothing actually happening..." Crunch.

I wonder if there would be a different behaviour if the only time that there was a speed limit reduction was if there was actually something happening to "validate" it?

And the limit was removed as soon as the incident was dealt with in real time.
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Ouch - mean man!!!!!

It's a Kawasaki VN750!

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some may call it filtering perhaps ......... just saying

I now have a picture of a stationary queue of traffic, on the A12, with Maninder blasting past down the middle, filtering at 65 mph, on his King and Queen seat. lol

It would be ok, though. Not much chance of the police about and the "Safety" camera replacement would deem that it is fine too.
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Old 23rd February 2022, 09:59   #96
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Travelled the A14 yesterday both directions through around 8 miles of roadworks either side off the carrige way.

East bound the limit was 50mph, which I observed No one working and I was passed numerous time as if the limit was not there. Two of them were hgvs.

West bound it starts off at 50mph then drops to 40mph. Again I stuck to the limit, again I was passed numerous times. Again no workmen. Probably working at night.

Oh for speed cameras.

Genuinely.

Exactly the same situation exists on the A14 at Claydon at the moment - night time road works and 50/40 MPH speed limit that very few people seem to abide by. This would be a great location for a couple of not so visible speed cameras for revenue collection and educational purposes.
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Where I live (British Columbia) there are now very few speed cameras. The only ones are integrated with red light cameras at "problem" intersections.
At one time we had speed camera vans that would appear at random locations but they were done away with after an election promise. The things were hated as they were anonymous and were only revenue generators with no pretense of reducing traffic speed. They did slow traffic in their specific locations as people would slam on their brakes when they saw one. (Causing many accidents!) They were also expensive as each one had a police officer inside trying to stay awake. Now they rely on radar equipped police cars for enforcement as they can also attend to other road/police calls.

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Old 23rd February 2022, 23:17   #98
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Clearly not that successful in stopping speeders if they've caught 700:

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style...sation-wrapper

Raised a bob or two though I'd imagine.
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If they were "safety" cameras, would it not be better to use average speed cameras rather than those generally used? I feel that often, the sudden jamming on of the brakes for the spot cameras is probably more dangerous than the speed.

One of the few places where I feel that the term "safety" camera is used correctly is Dial Post on the A24, where fixed cameras are used to dissuade drivers from hammering past a junction, the site of many bad accidents. On the approach there are several warnings and the camera is highly visible, so whether or not it works is irrelevant, it does the job. Anyone getting caught there deserves it.
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If they were "safety" cameras, would it not be better to use average speed cameras rather than those generally used? I feel that often, the sudden jamming on of the brakes for the spot cameras is probably more dangerous than the speed.
Gatso - first gen, Spec - second gen (digital and central and only a second to identify a vehicle index and start then end times (equals av. speed).

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