gays in Russia - Page 3

scorpio stu · 6th February 2014, 06:10

Also for the church to condemn being gay in Russia and saying they are peadofile is rediculous

Leyland Worldmaster · 6th February 2014, 06:11

Takes many forms. Whatever form it takes it needs to be addressed with a balanced and patient mindset. Not really any excuses for it in todays informed world. I know it starts with "small comments" and little "jokes" and believe me it soon snowballs into something bigger. Oh, and typically when one complains, one is seen as "sensitive" and mocked for that too. Sound familiar?

Gate Keeper · 6th February 2014, 06:28

Don't come to Uganda as you will be put into prison for up to 15 years for being openly or secretly gay. People can also be imprisoned for harbouring or associating themselves with gay men or women. Homosexuality is illegal - a criminal offence and it is the same in Kenya, although the authorities here are more relaxed about it. A man from the UK was last month arrested for possessing an adult gay movie and was deported from Uganda. The government in Uganda has been under pressure to impose the death penalty for homosexuality from various political and religious groups. As a result of this, Richard Branson published a statement a few months ago saying that Virgin would no longer have any more business dealings with countries who operated these draconian laws. All that these laws do, is to drive people underground and make them live their lives feeling persecuted, when they should be enjoying themselves like any Tom, Rich or Harry

MrDoodles · 6th February 2014, 06:36

If you're Gay, just be glad you don't live in a Muslim Country!

whitevanman · 6th February 2014, 07:15

I still can't figure the winter Olympics going there tbh..The only possible reason can be money by the way of bribes..and as far as I know Russia still haven't guaranteed the safety of gay competitors nor have they guaranteed not to arrest them IF they display openly gay behavior even within the village where there are no spectators/public somewhere where they are supposed to be able to relax and be themselves.

However, In the past individual athletes have voiced concerns which sometimes lead to countries or individual athletes not going..

To me, who I am and what I believe in is far more important than what I do, if I were gay and picked I would not be going, four years training or no four years training..

I do not expect a pleasant games tbh, but no doubt we won't hear anything until they are back home.

thundercat · 6th February 2014, 08:38

I am part of the "older generation" what people do behind closed doors is no concern to me, but, I must admit that the thought of one man putting his you know what into the behind of another man for pleasure takes some getting used to.
Hopefully there will come a time when this is not a topic of conversation and let all people get on with their lives.

scorpio stu · 6th February 2014, 08:45

A persons sexuality is not an excuse and does not give someone the right to treat that person differently. It certainly does not give them the right to assault be it verbally or physically. It is not an excuse to murder or maim !
If certain backward countries want to make it either illegal/immoral then that is their decision but they are are in the minority and need to drag themselves into this century.

scorpio stu · 6th February 2014, 08:48

And thundercat I appreciate you have your own thoughts but it's quite narrow minded to put the comment you did. A relationship is so much more as I hope you've experienced. Sex is a part of a relationship but not all of it. It's much much more than that.

whitevanman · 6th February 2014, 08:57

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Originally Posted by scorpio stu

And thundercat I appreciate you have your own thoughts but it's quite narrow minded to put the comment you did. A relationship is so much more as I hope you've experienced. Sex is a part of a relationship but not all of it. It's much much more than that.

And in some instances like that of my dear departed uncle and his partner, sex isn't part of the equation at all and it's the company and the feeling of belonging that matter..

Georgies Dad · 6th February 2014, 09:17

I have friends who are gay,they are no different to my other friends,at my bowls club there are gay members and no one persecute them they are accepted as normal members and why not.

Its not for me to decide or judge them,they live their lives the way thay want to,and not how others think they should.

A friend of mine has a gay daughter,I went to her wedding last year(civil partnership)it was a great day out and my wife and I made new friends,we met many gay people there and had a great day out in good company so why is it such a big deal.

Live and let live

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whitevanman This is my second home 2001 Connie SE CDT, 2002 2.0Petrol Laguna SportHatch Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Althorne Posts: 3,122 Thanks: 319 Thanked 441 Times in 318 Posts	I still can't figure the winter Olympics going there tbh..The only possible reason can be money by the way of bribes..and as far as I know Russia still haven't guaranteed the safety of gay competitors nor have they guaranteed not to arrest them IF they display openly gay behavior even within the village where there are no spectators/public somewhere where they are supposed to be able to relax and be themselves. However, In the past individual athletes have voiced concerns which sometimes lead to countries or individual athletes not going.. To me, who I am and what I believe in is far more important than what I do, if I were gay and picked I would not be going, four years training or no four years training.. I do not expect a pleasant games tbh, but no doubt we won't hear anything until they are back home. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Today the 23rd of April I will mostly be: Kids, bikes, dog, kids, bikes, dog...Seems to be a pattern forming here Car: Connie SE CDT Manual, Mods: O-Rings, Silicon intercooler hose, Stainless EGR Bypass, BMW PCV Mod, 160 Upgrade, DD Unit, Projector Headlights, Powerflex Bottom Mount, Remote Clutch reservoir, SS Compensator; Inline Stat To Come: cat gut (when replacing iffy section). Meteors after refurb.. Last edited by whitevanman; 6th February 2014 at 09:24..

6th February 2014, 08:45	#27
scorpio stu This is my second home Jaguar 3.2 Executive Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Buckhurst Hil Posts: 3,269 Thanks: 508 Thanked 154 Times in 116 Posts	A persons sexuality is not an excuse and does not give someone the right to treat that person differently. It certainly does not give them the right to assault be it verbally or physically. It is not an excuse to murder or maim ! If certain backward countries want to make it either illegal/immoral then that is their decision but they are are in the minority and need to drag themselves into this century. __________________ Current cars V8 Petrol Range Rover Kia Sportage Hybrid Triumph Street Triple R

6th February 2014, 08:48	#28
scorpio stu This is my second home Jaguar 3.2 Executive Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Buckhurst Hil Posts: 3,269 Thanks: 508 Thanked 154 Times in 116 Posts	And thundercat I appreciate you have your own thoughts but it's quite narrow minded to put the comment you did. A relationship is so much more as I hope you've experienced. Sex is a part of a relationship but not all of it. It's much much more than that. __________________ Current cars V8 Petrol Range Rover Kia Sportage Hybrid Triumph Street Triple R

6th February 2014, 06:28	#23
Gate Keeper This is my second home 4X4 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Nairobi Posts: 20,072 Thanks: 8,286 Thanked 7,017 Times in 4,160 Posts	Don't come to Uganda as you will be put into prison for up to 15 years for being openly or secretly gay. People can also be imprisoned for harbouring or associating themselves with gay men or women. Homosexuality is illegal - a criminal offence and it is the same in Kenya, although the authorities here are more relaxed about it. A man from the UK was last month arrested for possessing an adult gay movie and was deported from Uganda. The government in Uganda has been under pressure to impose the death penalty for homosexuality from various political and religious groups. As a result of this, Richard Branson published a statement a few months ago saying that Virgin would no longer have any more business dealings with countries who operated these draconian laws. All that these laws do, is to drive people underground and make them live their lives feeling persecuted, when they should be enjoying themselves like any Tom, Rich or Harry

6th February 2014, 06:36	#24
MrDoodles Banned MG ZT+ V6 190 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Spalding Posts: 13,245 Thanks: 369 Thanked 1,196 Times in 818 Posts	If you're Gay, just be glad you don't live in a Muslim Country!

6th February 2014, 08:38	#26
thundercat Posted a thing or two Rover 75 Club SE Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: saxmundham Posts: 1,438 Thanks: 289 Thanked 173 Times in 121 Posts	I am part of the "older generation" what people do behind closed doors is no concern to me, but, I must admit that the thought of one man putting his you know what into the behind of another man for pleasure takes some getting used to. Hopefully there will come a time when this is not a topic of conversation and let all people get on with their lives.

6th February 2014, 09:17	#30
Georgies Dad This is my second home Land Rover Join Date: May 2013 Location: Thorpe St Andrew,Norwich Posts: 14,715 Thanks: 933 Thanked 2,925 Times in 1,979 Posts	I have friends who are gay,they are no different to my other friends,at my bowls club there are gay members and no one persecute them they are accepted as normal members and why not. Its not for me to decide or judge them,they live their lives the way thay want to,and not how others think they should. A friend of mine has a gay daughter,I went to her wedding last year(civil partnership)it was a great day out and my wife and I made new friends,we met many gay people there and had a great day out in good company so why is it such a big deal. Live and let live __________________ Steve and Georgie Together Forever Lonely days are long Twilight sings a song All the happiness that used to be Soon my eyes will close Soon I'll find repose And in dreams, you're always near to me I'll see you in my dreams And then I'll hold you in my dreams