Flying Scotsman trips in Scotland CANCELLED! - Page 2

stevestrat · 14th May 2016, 10:48

You know there is a remote possibility that this is an elaborate con to avoid the spotter problems the Scotsman has attracted in the past? Rav, whatever is hauling it, Scotsman or diesel, it doesn't leave the Waverley for Fife until 19:25 tomorrow evening, 19:39 at Dalmeny going north, 21:33 at Dalmeny going south.

Duotone · 14th May 2016, 12:20

On the opening of the Borders Railway the Queen's carriage was hauled by a A4 Pacific Union of South Africa, built to the LNER loading gauge.

The A3 Flying Scotsman was built to the same LNER loading gauge, 13 feet 1 inch high and 9 feet wide same as the UK standard loading gauge.

So if the A4 Union of South Africa fit OK then the A3 Flying Scotsman will fit.

As for the other parts of Railtrack in Scotland that are booked for Flying Scotsman,I am pretty sure Union of South Africa has run on those lines and are passed as standard UK loading gauge.

Dave T

rab60bit · 14th May 2016, 14:34

Official as of about 2pm today, it's back on again. Network Rail backed down (maybe they spotted Duotone's very logical putdown of the jobsworths).

stevestrat · 14th May 2016, 14:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duotone

As for the other parts of Railtrack in Scotland that are booked for Flying Scotsman,I am pretty sure Union of South Africa has run on those lines and are passed as standard UK loading gauge.

Dave T

Number 9 (Union of South Africa) used to live in a shed at Markinch station. In my BR days the very first turn I did as a volunteer steam fireman in the early '80s was taking it from Eastfield in Glasgow back to Markinch via the bridge.

chipsceola · 14th May 2016, 15:33

Flying Scotsman borders trip back on according to BBC News for Sunday

freddie · 14th May 2016, 15:38

They cancelled its trip through Norfolk last month.
said too many people would come to see it along the way.
Health and safety in over drive.
Waist of millions of pounds if its just going nowhere.

DragonFly · 14th May 2016, 19:13

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Originally Posted by freddie

Waist of millions of pounds

Blimey, I'd hate to be the tailor for those trousers

Ravinder · 14th May 2016, 22:54

Hope I can get a picture tomorrow.

stevestrat · 15th May 2016, 06:15

Anybody planning to see the Scotsman, here are the full timings for today:

Empty stock Boness to Waverley

Waverley to Tweedbank

Tweedbank to Waverley

Empty stock run around Edinburgh Suburban Line

Waverley - Fife Circle

Empty stock Waverley to Boness

Simondi · 15th May 2016, 08:30

For those interested http://news.sky.com/story/1696287/fl...after-rail-row

I hope anyone who goes has a good time. Personally although I have always loved trains I cannot understand the hype for Flying Scotsman - wasn't even the first to go 100mph.

Now if it were the restored Highland Railway Jones Goods engine, Caley 123 or even City of Truro that would be different

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stevestrat This is my second home ZT260 #243 (resting) Join Date: May 2010 Location: Prestonpans Posts: 22,465 Thanks: 650 Thanked 4,624 Times in 3,358 Posts	Anybody planning to see the Scotsman, here are the full timings for today: Empty stock Boness to Waverley Waverley to Tweedbank Tweedbank to Waverley Empty stock run around Edinburgh Suburban Line Waverley - Fife Circle Empty stock Waverley to Boness __________________ Steve T4 Location Map Last edited by stevestrat; 15th May 2016 at 06:26..

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Duotone This is my second home 75 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Leeds Posts: 8,432 Thanks: 176 Thanked 907 Times in 716 Posts	On the opening of the Borders Railway the Queen's carriage was hauled by a A4 Pacific Union of South Africa, built to the LNER loading gauge. The A3 Flying Scotsman was built to the same LNER loading gauge, 13 feet 1 inch high and 9 feet wide same as the UK standard loading gauge. So if the A4 Union of South Africa fit OK then the A3 Flying Scotsman will fit. As for the other parts of Railtrack in Scotland that are booked for Flying Scotsman,I am pretty sure Union of South Africa has run on those lines and are passed as standard UK loading gauge. Dave T

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