Ireland opts for 2030 combustion ban

Lancpudn · 22nd June 2019, 09:16

I see Ireland has jumped on the ICE ban a whole decade earlier than the UK and wants a ban starting in 2030, I've been reading about Ireland's ban this morning & one paragraph in this report is very worrying.

"The environmental plan also added measures to limit the use of old vehicles, and levy fees on “the production of materials that are difficult to recycle”. In addition to banning the sale of new fossil fuel cars, the government said it would stop granting National Car Test (NCT) certificates to such vehicles by 2045."

https://www.electrive.com/2019/06/18...ombustion-ban/

planenut · 22nd June 2019, 09:54

Next thing is they will ban the use of solar panels overnight!

SCP440 · 22nd June 2019, 19:56

Cars over 39 years old are exempt the NCT so that will be interesting.

I wonder if hybrids will still be aloud?

Interesting times ahead for all of us I think.

AndyN01 · 22nd June 2019, 21:16

How "difficult" and/or cost effective is it to recycle the components of the "new" electric vehicles?

Andy.

andymc · 22nd June 2019, 23:41

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Originally Posted by AndyN01

How "difficult" and/or cost effective is it to recycle the components of the "new" electric vehicles?

Andy.

Batteries are now expected to outlast the rest of the car, i.e. not drop below 70% capacity for at least 15 years. They are then eminently suitable for repurposing as grid storage - even a degraded first generation Nissan Leaf battery (which was less durable than those in production today) would be able to store at least 36 hours' worth of electricity demand for the average household.

AndyN01 · 23rd June 2019, 08:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by andymc

Batteries are now expected to outlast the rest of the car, i.e. not drop below 70% capacity for at least 15 years. They are then eminently suitable for repurposing as grid storage - even a degraded first generation Nissan Leaf battery (which was less durable than those in production today) would be able to store at least 36 hours' worth of electricity demand for the average household.

Thanks.

This forum is a wealth of great knowledge

.

Andy

andymc · 23rd June 2019, 08:32

It's part of the reason why electric cars are so slow to depreciate (in fact, over the past year or so used ones have been appreciating in value) - even if the rest of the car were to be written off, a degraded but undamaged battery pack would still be worth thousands. They are a commodity.

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planenut Regional Secretary Rover 1.8T Tourer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Heathrow Posts: 6,946 Thanks: 1,551 Thanked 2,036 Times in 1,264 Posts	Next thing is they will ban the use of solar panels overnight!

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SCP440 I really should get out more....... MG ZT-T 260 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Witney Posts: 2,504 Thanks: 6 Thanked 910 Times in 571 Posts	Cars over 39 years old are exempt the NCT so that will be interesting. I wonder if hybrids will still be aloud? Interesting times ahead for all of us I think.

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AndyN01 This is my second home Toyota RAV4 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Tamworth Posts: 3,067 Thanks: 2,478 Thanked 1,579 Times in 968 Posts	How "difficult" and/or cost effective is it to recycle the components of the "new" electric vehicles? Andy.