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Ultimately, I believe that it has to be driven by the consumer and the governments. Of course large shareholders also have a part to play, as corporations always take on board the concerns of their majority shareholders. |
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Our local co-op has started using bio degradable environmentally friendly plastic bags. Great for the food recycling bin
That seems like a good idea but I've no idea what the production costs or environmental impact of production is. I'm quite sure someone will be able to find out. |
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Currently between 30 and 40% more than the standard grade I’m afraid, we are trialling biodegradable resins at the moment, for packaging they are up to the job adequately, the problem is the customers are reluctant to pay the extra cost.
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It is now too late to do much about it plastics are everywhere, we are regrettably in the do dah and swimming in it up to our necks. |
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Useful to see the comparisons set out so clearly - but the cynic in me is checking out the source and ascertain any bias!! But the American EPA have said that paper mills are the worst pollution sources in the US. Citing the use of Formaldehyde, Toluene and Methanol. That list makes Fracking look positively benign |
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Why didn’t I buy a permanent shopping bag as use that? I think the answer was convenience, laziness and inertia. Despite me having the will and motivation to do something - I didn’t. If a better alternative to plastic is available then I believe it will take legislation to introduce it - but we do need to be certain what we substitute is less harmful. Look at the diesel debacle! A classic example of legislators getting it wrong. So I also believe we should explore the use of containerised burning of plastics for energy production - as well as the conversion of waste plastic to fuel. Could it possibly be that if these Fat Bergs and plastic waste dumped in our oceans had a value as a resource - would that be a bigger spur to retrieve the stuff than the ineffective notion that “We really should not be doing this”? Last edited by Darcydog; 18th June 2019 at 17:15.. |
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