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Old 6th April 2019, 09:38   #21
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When we started to remodel our garden, we found that the previous owner had buried bits of his old Morris Minor all over the garden.

I needed a gaiter for a shock absorber on my Volvo, one of the gaiters off the Minor steering rack did the job just fine, it was still unperished despite being at least 40 years old and buried for goodness knows how long.

(As someone with a little knowledge of plastic and rubber, I would guess that fillers like talc and chalk are being used to excess in the plastic gaiters, this saves money, but will weaken the plastic, and especially, it will make it brittle, which will cause the cracking failures to happen quickly)

In China it is common practice for a supplier to submit great quality samples, but they can't make money on them, the ones supplied for production are usually inferior, like the case hardened screws which turned out to have been painted black, luckily I had been warned of these practices, so caught 50,000 before they caused chaos.
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Old 6th April 2019, 10:02   #22
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In China it is common practice for a supplier to submit great quality samples, but they can't make money on them, the ones supplied for production are usually inferior, like the case hardened screws which turned out to have been painted black, luckily I had been warned of these practices, so caught 50,000 before they caused chaos.

Really......

Someone being a bit underhand and on the fiddle to make a few ££££'s ......

Surely not .

Maybe we need a list of suppliers of QUALITY parts that last a good amount of time?

DMGRS springs to mind with Matt's 2 year warranty.

Rimmers Bros?

How many others?

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Old 6th April 2019, 10:35   #23
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Why we want trade deals with countries that make substandard pattern parts is beyond me. Ive learned my lesson.
Well I've got some China ornaments on my shelf and they have years of dust on them and still looking okay.
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Old 6th April 2019, 11:19   #24
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Well I've got some China ornaments on my shelf and they have years of dust on them and still looking okay.

That's the best place for generic drop links.
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I've often wondered if there would be any value in occasionally giving each end of the droplinks a spray with silicone grease maybe once a month.

Something like this which claims to be safe on most rubbers: https://www.toolstation.com/action-c...bricant/p34151

In my mind it could help preserve the rubber boots but also help prevent corrosion of the nut and thread.

Any thoughts or anyone tried this?

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Old 6th April 2019, 14:31   #26
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This may be of interest.
I test plenty of vehicles daily, and during the test plenty of them fail due to exactly the same issue, so we are not alone in this.
The quality is simply not there any more regardless of where they are purchased from. Also when you see the angles that these items operate through during steering movements, its hardly suprising these go prematurely bad.
One last observation, Some folks go the extra mile in cleaning the inside of wheel arches and the roadside car wash teams all over the country may be causing problems with the use of caustic products such as TFR, this will acellerate the problems to include the fading of black plastics and other softer materials (Tyre side-walls are also affected)
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Old 6th April 2019, 16:10   #27
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I replaced one today, that I had to be honest, expected to replace. I injected a little more grease into the boots in the hope that they will do well, it cannot do any harm, or can it?

I imagine if too much grease was able to get below the ball joint, it would pop out (unlikely I know, but if it were to get to that stage the boot would leak first I assume). But we are considering the suppleness of the boot, and lubing the outside, but could the grease not damage the boot from the inside, if it were cheap 'rubber'?

I've also noticed the joints are stiff at first and this too got me thinking. If they are sitting static for a longish period of time, with 'just enough' grease, this could possible lead to dry maybe corroded sections of the joint. The extra grease we add, then sealing the corrosion and allowing it to possibly rot further, again from the inside out.

Just some additional thinking I had today replacing one of mine.

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Also, not sure what grease is being used on the boots outside, but Rubber grease would seem to be a favourite as it is formulated for rubber / synthetic similar products.
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Really......

Someone being a bit underhand and on the fiddle to make a few ££££'s ......

Surely not .

Maybe we need a list of suppliers of QUALITY parts that last a good amount of time?

DMGRS springs to mind with Matt's 2 year warranty.

Rimmers Bros?

How many others?

Andy
These substandard droplinks were from DMGRS, and yes, come with a 2 year warranty, but after 4 months having failed boots and having to replace them, then fail again a few months later, it’s not worth the extra cost for me. To be fair to Matt I’ve not bothered contacting him re warranty, parts of it failing twice in 10 months, I’m not interested in a replacement.
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Non of my vehicles have ever had a ‘car wash sprayer’ used on them, ever. If I can not hand wash it, it has to wait until I can, no matter how dirty. I have seen what car wash sprayers can do to a lorry never mind a car. Not for me thank you.
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