Diesel Particulate Filter Retrofit

ashley101 · 9th April 2014, 13:22

Hi everyone,

I'll need to drive in Berlin over the next couple of months. One of the requirements there is for all cars (even foreign registered ones) to meet stringent emissions standards, which for every diesel car registered before 2006 means the presence of a diesel particulate filter (DPF).

I have a 2002 75 Tourer CDT, and I understand that these cars don't have a DPF. Does anyone have any idea how much it would cost to have one retrofitted here in the UK? I've always found anything car-related to be much, much more expensive in Germany, so I'd like to find out what the situation is here. The going rate over there seems to be around £1k all in.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Ashley

freddie · 9th April 2014, 13:34

[QUOTE=ashley101;1634729]Hi everyone,

I'll need to drive in Berlin over the next couple of months. One of the requirements there is for all cars (even foreign registered ones) to meet stringent emissions standards, which for every diesel car registered after 2006 means the presence of a diesel particulate filter (DPF).

I have a 2002 75 Tourer CDT, and I understand that these cars don't have a DPF. Does anyone have any idea how much it would cost to have one retrofitted here in the UK? I've always found anything car-related to be much, much more expensive in Germany, so I'd like to find out what the situation is here. The going rate over there seems to be around £1k all in.

Any thoughts?

thaks Ashley

Well as your car was manufactured before 2006 as all 75 & zts no need for one.

Paulontour · 9th April 2014, 14:00

You can't just retro fit a particulate filter If the car has never had one. The DPF is controlled by the ecu to regenerate at certain intervals. Maybe fit a new cat if you are worried. Any way you car was manufactured before 2006 so I wouldn't worry.

Jakg · 9th April 2014, 14:01

I've never heard of a company in the UK retrofitting them - only removing or occasionally repairing them!

I think that you'll find it easier getting it done over there.

Bigcul1 · 9th April 2014, 14:43

I would be very surprised if it was possible plus like others have said your car predates 2006 so you are not required to have one.

ashley101 · 9th April 2014, 15:01

Hi everyone,

Sorry - I made a typo in the original post! As I understand things, the retrofit is required because the car was manufactured and registered before 2006.

Perhaps this is something that simply isn't available here because of a lack of need?

Thanks,
Ashley

ashley101 · 9th April 2014, 15:09

It seems that a DPF is definitely what's required as an upgrade...

The problem is that I need a special type of green sticker to display in my windscreen which proves that the car meets the required levels, and these stickers are only issued with proof of the levels being met. Otherwise you're not allowed to drive in Berlin (and many other German cities) even as a visitor. The police are quite hot on the issue (and it's easy to check with cars being parked up in cities) and the fine is €40 and one driving licence point for every day of violation. It quickly mounts up.

The only option I've found here seems to be this: http://www.hjs.com/aftermarket/produ...ty-filter.html Does anyone have any input? It'd be great to get it done here if at all possible so that I can drive in Germany straight away (and hopefully make a cost saving as well).

I may just have to resign myself to shelling out the £1k and having it done over there though...or buying another cheap run-around with all of this already done. Argh, really don't need all this hassle!!

Thanks,
Ashley

ashley101 · 9th April 2014, 15:17

Sorry for the run of posts, but I've just seen that there's a similar low emissions zone in London for large vehicles. Does anyone know of companies that provide DPF retrofits for these vehicles that might be able to help on a smaller car?

There's an overview of options for the London system here: http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/lez/17701.aspx

But unfortunately there's no 'Pay a daily charge' option over in Germany!

(Although in London it is between £100 and £200!!)

mh007 · 9th April 2014, 17:53

Hi Ashley

I really can't see how a DPF could be retrofitted to our cars to be honest.
They're more trouble than they're worth so if you can get away without, you'll be far better off.
Are you absolutely certain one is compulsory for cars manufactured up to 2006 ?
I've taken a quick look around & it's not exactly clearly explained from what i've read !

rrobson · 9th April 2014, 18:07

If it is mandatory for a diesel car registered before 2006 to have a Dpf fitted then I think there are two very simple solutions.

1, buy a car which has a Dpf fitted.

2, buy a petrol car.

I simply cannot believe that every diesel car which drives through Berlin has a Dpf fitted regardless of age.

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ashley101 Avid contributor 2002 Conn SE 75 Tourer (Manual) Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Worcester Posts: 134 Thanks: 76 Thanked 13 Times in 11 Posts	Diesel Particulate Filter Retrofit Hi everyone, I'll need to drive in Berlin over the next couple of months. One of the requirements there is for all cars (even foreign registered ones) to meet stringent emissions standards, which for every diesel car registered before 2006 means the presence of a diesel particulate filter (DPF). I have a 2002 75 Tourer CDT, and I understand that these cars don't have a DPF. Does anyone have any idea how much it would cost to have one retrofitted here in the UK? I've always found anything car-related to be much, much more expensive in Germany, so I'd like to find out what the situation is here. The going rate over there seems to be around £1k all in. Any thoughts? Thanks, Ashley Last edited by ashley101; 11th April 2014 at 06:04..

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ashley101 Avid contributor 2002 Conn SE 75 Tourer (Manual) Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Worcester Posts: 134 Thanks: 76 Thanked 13 Times in 11 Posts	It seems that a DPF is definitely what's required as an upgrade... The problem is that I need a special type of green sticker to display in my windscreen which proves that the car meets the required levels, and these stickers are only issued with proof of the levels being met. Otherwise you're not allowed to drive in Berlin (and many other German cities) even as a visitor. The police are quite hot on the issue (and it's easy to check with cars being parked up in cities) and the fine is €40 and one driving licence point for every day of violation. It quickly mounts up. The only option I've found here seems to be this: http://www.hjs.com/aftermarket/produ...ty-filter.html Does anyone have any input? It'd be great to get it done here if at all possible so that I can drive in Germany straight away (and hopefully make a cost saving as well). I may just have to resign myself to shelling out the £1k and having it done over there though...or buying another cheap run-around with all of this already done. Argh, really don't need all this hassle!! Thanks, Ashley Last edited by ashley101; 9th April 2014 at 15:12..

9th April 2014, 15:17	#8
ashley101 Avid contributor 2002 Conn SE 75 Tourer (Manual) Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Worcester Posts: 134 Thanks: 76 Thanked 13 Times in 11 Posts	Sorry for the run of posts, but I've just seen that there's a similar low emissions zone in London for large vehicles. Does anyone know of companies that provide DPF retrofits for these vehicles that might be able to help on a smaller car? There's an overview of options for the London system here: http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/lez/17701.aspx But unfortunately there's no 'Pay a daily charge' option over in Germany! (Although in London it is between £100 and £200!!) Last edited by ashley101; 9th April 2014 at 15:21..

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rrobson I really should get out more....... 75 tourer cdti, MG ZS 180, nissan terrano & 1.8t rover 25 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Pontefract Posts: 2,643 Thanks: 17 Thanked 295 Times in 218 Posts	If it is mandatory for a diesel car registered before 2006 to have a Dpf fitted then I think there are two very simple solutions. 1, buy a car which has a Dpf fitted. 2, buy a petrol car. I simply cannot believe that every diesel car which drives through Berlin has a Dpf fitted regardless of age. __________________ How to view a car - everything you need to help you inspect a used car VIS motor tester avalible to local members Injector removal tool and auto gearbox pressure tester now available

9th April 2014, 14:00	#3
Paulontour Avid contributor MGZT 190 and MGF VVC Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Nuneaton Posts: 214 Thanks: 16 Thanked 28 Times in 18 Posts	You can't just retro fit a particulate filter If the car has never had one. The DPF is controlled by the ecu to regenerate at certain intervals. Maybe fit a new cat if you are worried. Any way you car was manufactured before 2006 so I wouldn't worry.

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Jakg This is my second home N/A Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Suffolk Posts: 6,867 Thanks: 0 Thanked 397 Times in 302 Posts	I've never heard of a company in the UK retrofitting them - only removing or occasionally repairing them! I think that you'll find it easier getting it done over there.

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Bigcul1 Gets stuck in Rover 75 CDTi Con SE Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Northallerton Posts: 846 Thanks: 123 Thanked 131 Times in 91 Posts	I would be very surprised if it was possible plus like others have said your car predates 2006 so you are not required to have one.

9th April 2014, 15:01	#6
ashley101 Avid contributor 2002 Conn SE 75 Tourer (Manual) Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Worcester Posts: 134 Thanks: 76 Thanked 13 Times in 11 Posts	Hi everyone, Sorry - I made a typo in the original post! As I understand things, the retrofit is required because the car was manufactured and registered before 2006. Perhaps this is something that simply isn't available here because of a lack of need? Thanks, Ashley

9th April 2014, 17:53	#9
mh007 This is my second home MG ZT260 SE, MG ZT190+, MG ZTT 160, R75 Conn SE 2.0, R75 Conn SE 2.5 X 3, R75 Club SE 1.8, P5B Coupe Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Keynsham, Bristol Posts: 4,211 Thanks: 65 Thanked 635 Times in 499 Posts	Hi Ashley I really can't see how a DPF could be retrofitted to our cars to be honest. They're more trouble than they're worth so if you can get away without, you'll be far better off. Are you absolutely certain one is compulsory for cars manufactured up to 2006 ? I've taken a quick look around & it's not exactly clearly explained from what i've read !