Be Wary - Virus Is Still There. - Page 46

kaiser · 22nd September 2020, 18:43

ha ha, as the world turns.

At 20:00 all shall be revealed. Big Brother of Ingsoc will Newspeak on the introduction of further state sanctioned rules.
Winston together with Julia and other Proles will watch the Telescreens intently.
Ignorance is strength.

Doublethink might be your way out, or the Ministry of Love and Room 101 are awaiting.

Are the English going to accept this?

A guess?
Sadly yes.
Hope not, but.....

Simondi · 22nd September 2020, 19:23

A very clear message from the First Minister and re affirming FACTS

kaiser · 22nd September 2020, 19:34

"The l o n g e s t winter"

Indeed!

SCP440 · 22nd September 2020, 20:05

On a plus we are unlikely to be able to have all the grumpy relatives that usually turn up on Christmas day expecting to be fed and watered and then disappear , just the kids and there partners will be so nice.

The wife came home with her laptop and screen and reckons she wont be back in the office until March. She is not overly happy about it but as she enjoys the social aspect of her workmates but needs must.

COLVERT · 22nd September 2020, 20:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dallas

I see people are panic buying toilet roll again, our local Sainsburys, Asda and Tesco have bare shelves.

The madness starts again...

I am totally amazed by how few folk in GB have a BIDET.

( But think they are more advanced than the FRENCH in toilet issues.--

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A low oval basin used for washing one's genital and anal area.

( Above explanation for folks who don't know what one is.---

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Advantage ????? No more skid marks.-------

Stevie25 · 22nd September 2020, 23:30

Summary of the last 8 months (imho)

NOT TO BLAME FOR COVID FAILURE
Late lockdown
Failure on PPE
Failure to protect care homes
Mixed messages
Cummings eye test
Failure of App
Failure of Testing
Failure of Track and Trace
Hopeless Harding
Eat Out To Help Out

TO BLAME
The public

SCP440 · 23rd September 2020, 06:45

Part of the problem is the youth of today are not used to being restricted in there behaviour. They have little or no discipline and when you question them they say ''what are you going to do about it ?''

When it was warm there were groups of youths drinking beer in parks in groups larger that the allowed numbers at the time, no police just a few council workers with no powers to stop them.

As soon as travel was allowed they were on an aircraft to sit on a beach and get drunk in some place with a hotter climate as they must have there foreign holiday. When did that become a law? I thought a foreign holiday was a privilege not a law?

None of us want our freedom restricted but some one needs to drum it into the the minority the longer they behave like this the longer we are going to have to have our freedoms restricted.

Sad as it is the pubs and restaurants that will loose money through earlier closing but personally I think they should be shutting even earlier and also ban house parties.

Spanish flu took two and half years before it stopped being a problem, if people carry on behaving like they are I think Covid will be the same even if they come up with a vaccine.

Keep safe.

Stevie25 · 23rd September 2020, 08:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stevie25

Summary of the last 8 months (imho)

NOT TO BLAME FOR COVID FAILURE
Late lockdown
Failure on PPE
Failure to protect care homes
Mixed messages
Cummings eye test
Failure of App
Failure of Testing
Failure of Track and Trace
Hopeless Harding
Eat Out To Help Out

TO BLAME
The public

‘TO BLAME’ BASED ON:
Asked Yesterday why the UK's Covid infection rate is worse than Germany and Italy the PM says it's because we're a "freedom loving country"

The full exchange on this question is worth listening to.

Effectively, ‘The Public’ were being blamed - wrongly of course imo.

wraymond · 23rd September 2020, 13:02

Predictable or what? Now the blame game gets going and the name calling in the general public gets started. People start hiding behind banners that are borderline rule breakers, seemingly with impunity given their standing, and implausible reasoning becomes ‘fact’.

Events change the focus and earlier ‘facts’ become evident guesswork and ridiculous. Then barbed comments about harmless and innocuous remarks attract censure so we all go to Hades in a handcart. Mods hover, their targets rightly demur.

The usual remedy for a raised temperature is a C0vid-19 test but, hey ho, short supply prevents. Government butterfingers dropped the ball, again, and we are in catch-up mode. Again. And again.

Until the facts are actually known and the issues are finally resolved, is it possible to avoid slagging with words like idiot, pr@t and stupid? Especially as they are obviously not afflicted with those particular ailments? Even more, they will probably fail to produce any response worth having?

wraymond · 23rd September 2020, 16:18

I don't believe intemperate name-calling or mildly abusive and derogatory terms ever did anything to resolve issues. Ever. It just doesn't work on any level and no matter what the passions are, I'll never do it.

Discourse has degenerated into slanging matches peppered with stupid little cartoon characters these days. What on Earth have we come to when issues are dealt with via cave painting?

22nd September 2020, 18:43	#451
kaiser This is my second home 75 Tourer 2.5 Auto, 1.8T, 75V8ZT Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Johannesburg ZA Posts: 6,200 Thanks: 1 Thanked 859 Times in 613 Posts	ha ha, as the world turns. At 20:00 all shall be revealed. Big Brother of Ingsoc will Newspeak on the introduction of further state sanctioned rules. Winston together with Julia and other Proles will watch the Telescreens intently. Ignorance is strength. Doublethink might be your way out, or the Ministry of Love and Room 101 are awaiting. Are the English going to accept this? A guess? Sadly yes. Hope not, but..... __________________ Worth his V8 in gold

22nd September 2020, 19:34	#453
kaiser This is my second home 75 Tourer 2.5 Auto, 1.8T, 75V8ZT Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Johannesburg ZA Posts: 6,200 Thanks: 1 Thanked 859 Times in 613 Posts	"The l o n g e s t winter" Indeed! __________________ Worth his V8 in gold

23rd September 2020, 13:02	#459
wraymond This is my second home 75 Auto 2.5 SE Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Westcliff on Sea Posts: 5,193 Thanks: 423 Thanked 1,680 Times in 1,014 Posts	Predictable or what? Now the blame game gets going and the name calling in the general public gets started. People start hiding behind banners that are borderline rule breakers, seemingly with impunity given their standing, and implausible reasoning becomes ‘fact’. Events change the focus and earlier ‘facts’ become evident guesswork and ridiculous. Then barbed comments about harmless and innocuous remarks attract censure so we all go to Hades in a handcart. Mods hover, their targets rightly demur. The usual remedy for a raised temperature is a C0vid-19 test but, hey ho, short supply prevents. Government butterfingers dropped the ball, again, and we are in catch-up mode. Again. And again. Until the facts are actually known and the issues are finally resolved, is it possible to avoid slagging with words like idiot, pr@t and stupid? Especially as they are obviously not afflicted with those particular ailments? Even more, they will probably fail to produce any response worth having? __________________ member no. 235

23rd September 2020, 16:18	#460
wraymond This is my second home 75 Auto 2.5 SE Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Westcliff on Sea Posts: 5,193 Thanks: 423 Thanked 1,680 Times in 1,014 Posts	I don't believe intemperate name-calling or mildly abusive and derogatory terms ever did anything to resolve issues. Ever. It just doesn't work on any level and no matter what the passions are, I'll never do it. Discourse has degenerated into slanging matches peppered with stupid little cartoon characters these days. What on Earth have we come to when issues are dealt with via cave painting? __________________ member no. 235

22nd September 2020, 20:05	#454
SCP440 I really should get out more....... MG ZT-T 260 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Witney Posts: 2,504 Thanks: 6 Thanked 910 Times in 571 Posts	On a plus we are unlikely to be able to have all the grumpy relatives that usually turn up on Christmas day expecting to be fed and watered and then disappear , just the kids and there partners will be so nice. The wife came home with her laptop and screen and reckons she wont be back in the office until March. She is not overly happy about it but as she enjoys the social aspect of her workmates but needs must.

22nd September 2020, 23:30	#456
Stevie25 Loves to post Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Bangor, NI Posts: 369 Thanks: 356 Thanked 148 Times in 87 Posts	Summary of the last 8 months (imho) NOT TO BLAME FOR COVID FAILURE Late lockdown Failure on PPE Failure to protect care homes Mixed messages Cummings eye test Failure of App Failure of Testing Failure of Track and Trace Hopeless Harding Eat Out To Help Out TO BLAME The public

23rd September 2020, 06:45	#457
SCP440 I really should get out more....... MG ZT-T 260 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Witney Posts: 2,504 Thanks: 6 Thanked 910 Times in 571 Posts	Part of the problem is the youth of today are not used to being restricted in there behaviour. They have little or no discipline and when you question them they say ''what are you going to do about it ?'' When it was warm there were groups of youths drinking beer in parks in groups larger that the allowed numbers at the time, no police just a few council workers with no powers to stop them. As soon as travel was allowed they were on an aircraft to sit on a beach and get drunk in some place with a hotter climate as they must have there foreign holiday. When did that become a law? I thought a foreign holiday was a privilege not a law? None of us want our freedom restricted but some one needs to drum it into the the minority the longer they behave like this the longer we are going to have to have our freedoms restricted. Sad as it is the pubs and restaurants that will loose money through earlier closing but personally I think they should be shutting even earlier and also ban house parties. Spanish flu took two and half years before it stopped being a problem, if people carry on behaving like they are I think Covid will be the same even if they come up with a vaccine. Keep safe.