Be Wary - Virus Is Still There.

[kaiser]

Salient quote from document:

Who is protected from liability

Article 5(3) of Directive 2001/83 requires that Member States lay down provisions so that marketing authorisation holders, manufacturers and health professionals are not subject to civil or administrative liability for any consequences resulting from the use of an unauthorised medicinal product, or from the use of a product otherwise than in accordance with its authorisation, when such use is by the licensing authority in response to (among other things) the spread of pathogens. This requirement is implemented into UK law by regulation 345.

What regulation 345 does, therefore, is transpose into UK law a requirement of EU law that key actors in the medicines supply chain cannot generally be sued in the civil courts for the consequences resulting from the use of an unlicensed product, or a new use of a licensed product, that a national licensing authority is recommending in order to deal with certain specific health threats.

Emphasis mine!

[RPWC]

Originally Posted by suzublu

COVID-19 is a complete and utter scamdemic. The perpetrators and accomplices should be in jail. More people will die due to the effects of lockdown and cancelled operations and screenings than will die of the tiny virus. It's a disgrace. The world leading Lancet medical journal said "full lockdowns were not associated with reductions in the number of critical cases or overall mortality". Professor Michael Levitt of Stanford University said the lockdown saved no lives and may cost them.

Professor Sunetra Gupta of Oxford University estimates the virus to have a tiny infection fatality rate between 0.01% and 0.1%. A government report has said up to 200,000 could die of the effects of lockdown. Hospitals have been empty for months and there is a backlog of 2.4 million cancer patients waiting to be seen. The government admitted exaggerating it's death figure and hospital admissions at the peak. Labour and the Tories are two sides of the same dirty rotten coin.

We already knew as far back as mid-march, before the UK entered lockdown, that the virus was only unfortunately bringing forward the deaths of very old people already on their death beds. A Lancet study of Italian deaths published on March 13 found that the average age of COVID-19 death was 81. It also found that 99% of victims had at least one underlying health condition and that 48% had three underlying health conditions or more. Only 0.8% of victims had no other health conditions. This study was published 10 days before the UK lockdown began on March 23.

It was Professor Neil Ferguson's dodgy mathematical model which predicted 500,000 UK deaths without a lockdown that acted as a catalyst for the UK's lockdown as well as that of other nations. His model predicted 100,000 deaths by June 1 in Sweden which did not lock down. To this day Sweden have only had 5,810 COVID-19 RELATED deaths. Neil 'calamity' Ferguson has a history of disastrous predictions. He was wrong on bird flu, foot and mouth disease and swine flu.

His foot and mouth prediction that up to 150,000 people could die led to the needless slaughter of six million animals. In the end only 200 people died. Regarding Bird Flu he predicted up to 200 million people could die worldwide. To this day only 455 people have died of H5N1. Why did the government listen to him on COVID-19? It is the equivalent of Liverpool or Man Utd appointing a manager with a terrible record of successive relegations.

It doesn't make any sense. The truth that does make sense, however, is that Ferguson and Imperial College London receive millions in annual funding from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. The very same foundation that ran the Event 201 pandemic simulation in October 2019. The same Bill Gates who has been pushing vaccines for the past 20 years. In Australia for example there have only been 502 COVID-19 RELATED deaths in a population of 25 million people yet Australians are being told if they don't take a vaccine they may face restrictions such as not being able to work, use public transport or go to restaurants. This is completely insane and irrational but of course it's part of Bill Gates' vaccination agenda. Gates is also the largest donor of the corrupt World Health Organisation.

It's also a massive transfer of wealth to the world's elites. The wealth gap has never been wider. The lockdown has helped the globalist tech elites get hundreds of billions richer. The world's richest man and Amazon founder Jeff Bezos is the biggest winner. He has got $80 billion richer since the start of the year. The high street was closed down and now people need to wear scientifically unproven fabric masks to enter stores, sending many customers to him. Take a look at the NASDAQ-100 stock exchange which comprises most of the big tech companies. It has absolutely shot up and stands at a record high of 11,555.16 points. Eight of the top ten world's richest men got billions richer and seven of those eight are in the tech sector.

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I don’t think you can really use Aus as a comparison Ronnie, considering the population of the country is spread over a much greater distance. I don’t know who to believe anymore . I am just making my own decisions, wearing ppe in enclosed spaces where people from outside my household are, keeping a space between myself and others from outside the household and avoiding crowds. It won’t stop me meeting a few mates for a drink, there are only 4 of us that get together regular anyway. It’s the likes of my mother I am worried about,she doesn’t get out unless her carer or ourselves or a close friend takes her, but she is vulnerable due to long term illnesses. I still believe the virus will be with us for years, they developed a vaccine for flu, people still get it,if they develop a vaccine for COVID people will still get it. When will it end? I don’t think it will

[VVC-Geeza]

"If" a vaccine becomes available next year as widely predicted it won't have undergone the usual long term testing to ensure it is safe.I wonder what the implications will be for refusing a vaccination.Perhaps the withholding of your Covid pass that Russ mentioned earlier.

[ADO282]

Originally Posted by VVC-Geeza

"If" a vaccine becomes available next year as widely predicted it won't have undergone the usual long term testing to ensure it is safe.I wonder what the implications will be for refusing a vaccination.Perhaps the withholding of your Covid pass that Russ mentioned earlier.

Probably Mick, I won't be volunteering myself as a guinea pig for a covid vaccine, in fact not even if they have a certified vaccine.


I've managed well enough so far without, and covid is not high on my list of priorities.

[kaiser]

Thanks but no thanks!

I suggest that anyone who feels like receiving a shot, line up and get it.
Then leave the rest of us to do what we feel best.

After all, you will be protected by your vaccine!

[BigRuss]

The testing fiasco continues, I was told last night by a friend that yesterday their sisters youngest was sent home from school along with his elder brother because he had coughed 3 times.
Told that they wouldn't be allowed to return to the school until they had test done and were shown to be negative.

So their Mum immediately booked a test at the nearest available centre, Preston over 40 miles away. When they arrived they were in a queue for about an hour they were turned away because the generator had packed up.
She found out it wasn't for the computers to keep the records up to date, oh no ,it was because that their comfort facilities weren't working

So a wasted trip of 80 odd miles and the best part of 3 hours wasted just because the staff at the testing facility couldn't make a cup of tea!

Absolutely ridiculous.

Russ

[Avulon]

Well lucky for everyone that there are 'lots of medics' that work in the NHS that base the treatment they give on the patients needs and not some holier than thou judgement on the patient's life choices. There's very little space for the 'medics' you describe in the NHS.

[Nick Greg]

For those who are anti vaccine....

This blokes work sheds a bit of light on the efficacy of vaccines. (I nicked it off wikipedia - not ashamed to do so)

Maurice Ralph Hilleman (August 30, 1919 – April 11, 2005) was an American microbiologist who specialized in vaccinology and developed over 40 vaccines, an unparalleled record of productivity.[2][3] Of the 14 vaccines routinely recommended in current vaccine schedules, he developed eight: those for measles, mumps, hepatitis A, hepatitis B, chickenpox, meningitis, pneumonia and Haemophilus influenzae bacteria.[2] He also played a role in the discovery of the cold-producing adenoviruses, the hepatitis viruses, and the potentially cancer-causing[4] virus SV40.

Hilleman is credited with saving more lives than any other medical scientist of the 20th century.[5][6][7] Robert Gallo described him as "the most successful vaccinologist in history".[5]

That'll do for me thanks. Jab every time when necessary

[wraymond]

Each to his own and so be it. As to refusing treatment for a voluntary untested and unqualified hopeful antidote in the face of widespread antipathy, should we now let smokers die in agony with the cancer treatment withheld (that which they would have had if it were not for Covid)?

Should we withdraw treatment for alcoholics who are suffering a variety of related ailments after a lifetime of substance abuse? Should we legalise popular drugs such as cannabis to satisfy demand and make huge gains in taxation by taxes? And then refuse admission to clinics of confused and/or criminal users?

The parallels are scary: don't cross the road/don't have an accident/don't pay attention in school. It starts with the innocuous and makes it easy to create precedents for radicals to spice up.

So far it's been panic in the face of ignorance. Let's not maintain a folly because controversial and failed so-called scientists have dogs in the fight and their whole reputations being built on shifting sand. It won't be long before the anarchists get their way and only the madmen succeed.

I recommend reading Karol Sikora (leading cancer specialist of impeccable qualifications) instead of media-practised wafflers.

[wraymond]

I went to Tesco this morning for a paper and there was a chap with a mask on. Trouble was, it was a Lone Ranger mask. Now that shows an enterprising spirit. What did I do? Stayed three meters away from him with my mask on, whilst I was chuckling. At least nobody could see me chuckling for that blessed mask.