Azerbaijan Baku F1..........spoilers........... - Page 2

stevestrat · 25th June 2017, 14:03

F1 demolition derby!!

Mintee · 25th June 2017, 14:05

Surprised we haven't had a punch up in the pit lane!

stevestrat · 25th June 2017, 14:18

Bit like Matt Neal and Jason Plato moved into F1

Wonder what the consequences of the Vettel/Hamilton incident(s) will be.

Rogue · 25th June 2017, 14:24

Seems like Hamilton didn't accellerate out of the corner and caught Vettel out initially but i can't see how they can let what he did then go without penalty

solarsailor · 25th June 2017, 14:33

Regardless of whether Vettel thought he'd been brake tested - and it didn't look like it (Hamilton might not have accelerated but neither did he decelerate), driving alongside and then ramming Hamilton was inexcusable. Should be a drive through at least imho.

clf · 25th June 2017, 14:34

watching it over and over, I dont believe Vettel intended to ram him. I think the grip and strain of his right arm/hand on the wheel, when he shook his fist coupled with his desire to get close as possible to remonstrate Hamilton (my grandfather taught his brother to drive, and one of the 'lessons' he taught him, was to open the window as he drove. my grandfather noticed how tightly his brother was gripping the wheel. When he went to open the window, the grip and tension in his left arm, made him swerve suddenly to the left. The lesson was to relax your grip on the wheel, to allow more movement with your arms). The remonstrating of Vettel, though should be look at rather than the 'ram'.

I am not a fan of Hamilton at all. He has proven so many times to me, he is not a sporting driver (Senna and Schumacher were the same), particularly when his teammates begin to catch up to him. Whilst he did maintain a constant pace, around the left hand bend, it was an out of character move. Drivers generally will accelerate even slowly, after a corner in ALL conditions. But Hamilton maintained a cornering speed on a straight line. I am convinced it was on purpose to unsettle those behind him. (ie unsporting). He is clever! or should that be conniving?

EDIT: I will add, that all three drivers were/are great drivers and fully deserve their places in the sport. But equally none were/are team players in a team sport. Racing drivers are a generally selfish breed, and need to be, but their is a team element.

!0 second penalty just awarded to Vettel.

stevenicks · 25th June 2017, 14:38

Hamilton hasn't done anything wrong, just one of those things

.

clf · 25th June 2017, 14:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevenicks

Hamilton hasn't done anything wrong, just one of those things

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he never does

When others use his tactics and drive him hard, he cannot take it. Rosberg started to get the better of him in hard passes, Alonso and Button both, were not scared of him, and look how those relationships panned out as teammates.

Dubya · 25th June 2017, 14:57

Looks like Hamilton's chances of a first Azerbaijan win have been scuppered thanks to a loose head restraint! And Vettel gets a (justified) 10 second drive through penalty for ramming Hamilton!

clf · 25th June 2017, 15:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dubya

Looks like Hamilton's chances of a first Azerbaijan win have been scuppered thanks to a loose head restraint! And Vettel gets a (justified) 10 second drive through penalty for ramming Hamilton!

I agree with it being justified, but I believe karma was at work here

let the whinging begin lol

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clf This is my second home MG ZT CDTi Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: carrick Posts: 7,859 Thanks: 3,494 Thanked 2,657 Times in 1,973 Posts	watching it over and over, I dont believe Vettel intended to ram him. I think the grip and strain of his right arm/hand on the wheel, when he shook his fist coupled with his desire to get close as possible to remonstrate Hamilton (my grandfather taught his brother to drive, and one of the 'lessons' he taught him, was to open the window as he drove. my grandfather noticed how tightly his brother was gripping the wheel. When he went to open the window, the grip and tension in his left arm, made him swerve suddenly to the left. The lesson was to relax your grip on the wheel, to allow more movement with your arms). The remonstrating of Vettel, though should be look at rather than the 'ram'. I am not a fan of Hamilton at all. He has proven so many times to me, he is not a sporting driver (Senna and Schumacher were the same), particularly when his teammates begin to catch up to him. Whilst he did maintain a constant pace, around the left hand bend, it was an out of character move. Drivers generally will accelerate even slowly, after a corner in ALL conditions. But Hamilton maintained a cornering speed on a straight line. I am convinced it was on purpose to unsettle those behind him. (ie unsporting). He is clever! or should that be conniving? EDIT: I will add, that all three drivers were/are great drivers and fully deserve their places in the sport. But equally none were/are team players in a team sport. Racing drivers are a generally selfish breed, and need to be, but their is a team element. !0 second penalty just awarded to Vettel. __________________ It is not gloss primer .............. it is duct tape silver! Last edited by clf; 25th June 2017 at 14:39..

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