OH Help please 2.0CDT Auto not starting

ColinL · 18th February 2009, 21:42

Yes first post and its a Help request.

Have a 2001 2.0CDT Connoisseur Auto, well the wife has. BMW Engine and gear box.

Last night it would not start, I got her going and thought it was just not correctly in Park or the immobliser. Wife drives home and does not tell me it would only do 25mph for the first 1/2 mile then drove a normal.

This morning I took the Rover out and no power would only crawl at a max of 30mph, then I stopped and restarted her and after a minute she came alive and all was well, till I hit a junction and back to 30mph, went to station and filled the tank £20 worth of fuel, the tank did have 1/4 full in it to start. Now restarted the engine and on the way home she cut out and died, this happened twice and I was lucky to be able to coast to my door.

I have changed the fuel filter and air filter, cleaned the air mass meter, the pump at the battery is working, no air in the system and with a neighbours ear to the rear seat he can hear the tank pump prime.

Still will not start, any ideas, as I am stuck, had plans to work on my car this week not the Rover.

Is there a 75 Specialist in N. Ireland??

Any help greatly taken, I have been looking at the crank and cam sensors bit in the forums as well, but really want to work on my other car.

The Rover is great, its done 97K no trouble till now, we got it with 68K and love it.

Cheers
ColinL

SKS Disco · 18th February 2009, 21:56

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Originally Posted by ColinL

Yes first post and its a Help request.

Have a 2001 2.0CDT Connoisseur Auto, well the wife has. BMW Engine and gear box.

Last night it would not start, I got her going and thought it was just not correctly in Park or the immobliser. Wife drives home and does not tell me it would only do 25mph for the first 1/2 mile then drove a normal.

This morning I took the Rover out and no power would only crawl at a max of 30mph, then I stopped and restarted her and after a minute she came alive and all was well, till I hit a junction and back to 30mph, went to station and filled the tank £20 worth of fuel, the tank did have 1/4 full in it to start. Now restarted the engine and on the way home she cut out and died, this happened twice and I was lucky to be able to coast to my door.

I have changed the fuel filter and air filter, cleaned the air mass meter, the pump at the battery is working, no air in the system and with a neighbours ear to the rear seat he can hear the tank pump prime.

Still will not start, any ideas, as I am stuck, had plans to work on my car this week not the Rover.

Is there a 75 Specialist in N. Ireland??

Any help greatly taken, I have been looking at the crank and cam sensors bit in the forums as well, but really want to work on my other car.

The Rover is great, its done 97K no trouble till now, we got it with 68K and love it.

Cheers
ColinL

Hi and welcome aboard.
After the first half of your post I was saying "Ah, MAF sensor" but reading on a bit I am not so sure..
I would advise you to check the plenum drains for water though. If they get blocked it will flood your ECU.

I am sure another diesel guru will be along in a few minutes.

Sorry I can't help you more with your first question.

JohnDotCom · 18th February 2009, 21:58

Sorry to hear you have problems.
Welcome to the Club too by the way.

As stated could be water in the Plenum chambers taking out ECU always the first place to check.
Cam Sensor would stop it starting but not normally stop the car, that would be more Crank Sensor.
Fuel Pump came to mind but you say both working.

Report back after checking Plenums so people can advise further.

These are the XPart Service Centres and Distances from Northern Ireland on Search of their website.

P Topping Ltd
12 Dublin Road
Enniskillen
County Fermanagh
BT74 6HL
028 6632 3475
46.86 miles

2
Howard Abraham Motors Ltd
65 - 93 Avenue Road
Lurgan
County Armagh
BT66 7BG
0283 8323275
55.35 miles

3

S. S. Logan & Sons Ltd
450 - 456 Shore Road

Whiteabby
Newtownabbey
County Antrim
BT37 0AA
02890 863229
60.94 miles

4
Charles Hurst Vauxhall, Hummer & XPart
27 Boucher Road

Balmoral Belfast
County Antrim
BT12 6HR
028 90383475
61.40 miles

5
Charles Hurst Rover
788 Newtownards Road
Dundonald

Belfast
County Antrim
BT16 1UD
028 9048 4850
67.64 miles

Tim · 18th February 2009, 22:24

Could be a secondary fuel pump playing up. Do you hear a buzzing noise near to the battery?

ColinL · 19th February 2009, 09:40

Day 2

It rained last night so this morning the drain hole did have water, but I checked in were the ECU is and it is nice and dry. I clean out out all the NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD- every other week when I wash the car.

Anyway

Fuel can connected to lead from 2nd pump with the key turned and lights on the pump fills up the can, a nice 5 minutes of this and the can is filling up nicely. So that will be the pumps working OK then.

Still not starting, AMF lead removed and will not start,

Will now go to the Crank Case Sensor as this now seems to be the hardest one to get at.

Have looked on Ebay and found this Rover 75 crank shaft sensor and lead
from a dealer for £44 + postage its comes with a new lead.

Has any one tried this before? (Contacted seller and it will not work on my 75, but is getting the correct one its around £120ish, but still cheaper than Xparts)

Any more thoughts, the Dealers were good not far from SS Logans and did speak with them yesterday on the phone, they were thinking of the Pumps, but this is now ruled out,

Any other thoughts??

Cheers
ColinL

Greeners · 19th February 2009, 13:31

Try this thread

ColinL · 19th February 2009, 17:02

Now with old Crank Sensor out, without taking starter motor off, mirrors and lights can see all, but need smaller hands....

Just to wait of the New Sensor to arrive, due Sat morning so time to play with cleaning all the bits and pieces I have removed so far....

Then spend Friday working on my Car, and nice RV8 4:5 TVR Engine waiting to go in next week. ah the joys of car ownership...

18th February 2009, 21:42	#1
ColinL Newbie Rover 75 Connoisseur 2.0CDT Auto Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	OH Help please 2.0CDT Auto not starting Yes first post and its a Help request. Have a 2001 2.0CDT Connoisseur Auto, well the wife has. BMW Engine and gear box. Last night it would not start, I got her going and thought it was just not correctly in Park or the immobliser. Wife drives home and does not tell me it would only do 25mph for the first 1/2 mile then drove a normal. This morning I took the Rover out and no power would only crawl at a max of 30mph, then I stopped and restarted her and after a minute she came alive and all was well, till I hit a junction and back to 30mph, went to station and filled the tank £20 worth of fuel, the tank did have 1/4 full in it to start. Now restarted the engine and on the way home she cut out and died, this happened twice and I was lucky to be able to coast to my door. I have changed the fuel filter and air filter, cleaned the air mass meter, the pump at the battery is working, no air in the system and with a neighbours ear to the rear seat he can hear the tank pump prime. Still will not start, any ideas, as I am stuck, had plans to work on my car this week not the Rover. Is there a 75 Specialist in N. Ireland?? Any help greatly taken, I have been looking at the crank and cam sensors bit in the forums as well, but really want to work on my other car. The Rover is great, its done 97K no trouble till now, we got it with 68K and love it. Cheers ColinL

18th February 2009, 21:58	#3
JohnDotCom * Rover 75 FaceLift Tourer CDTi 170BHP Auto ConnSE 2005 Model Starlight Silver Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Abergele Posts: 28,735 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Sorry to hear you have problems. Welcome to the Club too by the way. As stated could be water in the Plenum chambers taking out ECU always the first place to check. Cam Sensor would stop it starting but not normally stop the car, that would be more Crank Sensor. Fuel Pump came to mind but you say both working. Report back after checking Plenums so people can advise further. These are the XPart Service Centres and Distances from Northern Ireland on Search of their website. P Topping Ltd 12 Dublin Road Enniskillen County Fermanagh BT74 6HL 028 6632 3475 46.86 miles 2 Howard Abraham Motors Ltd 65 - 93 Avenue Road Lurgan County Armagh BT66 7BG 0283 8323275 55.35 miles 3 S. S. Logan & Sons Ltd 450 - 456 Shore Road Whiteabby Newtownabbey County Antrim BT37 0AA 02890 863229 60.94 miles 4 Charles Hurst Vauxhall, Hummer & XPart 27 Boucher Road Balmoral Belfast County Antrim BT12 6HR 028 90383475 61.40 miles 5 Charles Hurst Rover 788 Newtownards Road Dundonald Belfast County Antrim BT16 1UD 028 9048 4850 67.64 miles Last edited by JohnDotCom; 18th February 2009 at 22:38..

18th February 2009, 22:24	#4
Tim Feel the size of my Quads MG ZT 440SE, MG HS PHEV & MG3 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Addlestone Posts: 1,735 Thanks: 0 Thanked 128 Times in 85 Posts	Could be a secondary fuel pump playing up. Do you hear a buzzing noise near to the battery? __________________ Member 23 or 63 depending on what you look at. https://www.two-sixties.co.uk/mgoc26...0rum/forum.php http://two-sixties-blog.com/ http://www.youtube.com/user/TheTwoSi.../1/1wPt2rhd_Ps

19th February 2009, 09:40	#5
ColinL Newbie Rover 75 Connoisseur 2.0CDT Auto Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Day 2 It rained last night so this morning the drain hole did have water, but I checked in were the ECU is and it is nice and dry. I clean out out all the NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD- every other week when I wash the car. Anyway Fuel can connected to lead from 2nd pump with the key turned and lights on the pump fills up the can, a nice 5 minutes of this and the can is filling up nicely. So that will be the pumps working OK then. Still not starting, AMF lead removed and will not start, Will now go to the Crank Case Sensor as this now seems to be the hardest one to get at. Have looked on Ebay and found this Rover 75 crank shaft sensor and lead from a dealer for £44 + postage its comes with a new lead. Has any one tried this before? (Contacted seller and it will not work on my 75, but is getting the correct one its around £120ish, but still cheaper than Xparts) Any more thoughts, the Dealers were good not far from SS Logans and did speak with them yesterday on the phone, they were thinking of the Pumps, but this is now ruled out, Any other thoughts?? Cheers ColinL Last edited by ColinL; 19th February 2009 at 10:08.. Reason: New info updated post

19th February 2009, 13:31	#6
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19th February 2009, 17:02	#7
ColinL Newbie Rover 75 Connoisseur 2.0CDT Auto Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Now with old Crank Sensor out, without taking starter motor off, mirrors and lights can see all, but need smaller hands.... Just to wait of the New Sensor to arrive, due Sat morning so time to play with cleaning all the bits and pieces I have removed so far.... Then spend Friday working on my Car, and nice RV8 4:5 TVR Engine waiting to go in next week. ah the joys of car ownership...