Retrofit Message Centre - definitive answers - Page 9

CDTi · 28th January 2009, 18:16

I don't know if the 100 Km update has anything to do with the 255 kms TBH. The Xpart PDF on the other thread clearly states that an IPK with less than 255 Kms can be coded to a car. As I read it, the 100 Km update from the LSM shouldn't really matter until the IPK is coded.

In this case, Davecw000's IPK may be OK as 150 miles is about 240 Km.

Greeners · 28th January 2009, 18:18

I think the 100kms figure is the rate at which the LSM/IPK milages are updated....I think the 255kms is how far you can use it without trashing it...( garage using one to check a fault without coding it for example)

Hope that makes sense

peterllewellyn75 · 28th January 2009, 18:25

Hi keith you said (It also reads the cars mileage from the backup held in the LSM) what is a LMS and could I use this to check that my mileage on the speedo is correct - Since having the car for no explanation i have a feeling my car as done more than on the speedo peter

Greeners · 28th January 2009, 18:32

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Originally Posted by peterllewellyn75

Hi keith you said (It also reads the cars mileage from the backup held in the LSM) what is a LMS and could I use this to check that my mileage on the speedo is correct - Since having the car for no explanation i have a feeling my car as done more than on the speedo peter

The whole point of this set up is to stop cars being clocked...if they had try to swap IPK or LSM, you'd get a VIN error if you put it on the testbook

Keith · 28th January 2009, 21:38

No Peter unfortunately you can't compare info between LSM and Cluster

These cars carry the miles very well so if Cluster and LSM had been changed or the cluster clocked (and no I can't do that) hence a lower mileage was being displayed you would have to look for the tell tale signs of wear etc pedals, steering wheel, seats etc

My Tourer has over 140K on the clock and it really is not that obvious when compared to my saloon with 60k on the clock!

peterllewellyn75 · 29th January 2009, 10:42

thanks keith the reason i thought it might have done more miles than on the clock was I had 14500 miles when i purchased it but most of the miles was done in the first year and i had to put new front pads on at 38,000 miles and i have been told that they mainly need changing at about 55000 to 60000 miles peter

davecw000 · 29th January 2009, 23:41

Hi

Sorry to have taken such a long time to come back – Checked the IPK and it is for a diesel so that’s OK.

Contacted the garage to express my concerns about the mileage reset – But they tried to assure me that there will no problems “once they get their T4 sorted out” – Can see difficult times ahead

Regards
David

CDTi · 30th January 2009, 11:31

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Originally Posted by davecw000

Contacted the garage to express my concerns about the mileage reset – But they tried to assure me that there will no problems “once they get their T4 sorted out” – Can see difficult times ahead

Regards
David

You will have to wait and see. I suppose the Rave manual could be wrong and the garage could be right......

StevenWilliams · 30th January 2009, 13:51

Keep us informed on how you get on. I'd be tempted to swap the old unit back in just in case.

I also have a question regarding the IPK upgrades.

If I change the internal cutout can you use a Diesel IPK in a Petrol car? Diesel ones can be bought semi cheap but Orange Petrol units are like gold dust.

Some people have stated yes and others NO. I'm looking for the difinitive answer hence usingthis thread.

tomcat22 · 9th July 2012, 23:11

reanimating this thread...

I also tried to retrofit the message centre, took the Eprom from the old IPK to the other one with MC, but screen keeps black.

So I recalculated ZCS-Codes:

Quote:

old SA: 21804C4081412242 -> new SA: 21804C4081414242.

But not sure if I set the correct bit.

Which is the bit for the MC? Any ideas?

Tom

28th January 2009, 18:16	#81
CDTi This is my second home No longer in the MGR club Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tipperary Posts: 3,933 Thanks: 35 Thanked 51 Times in 35 Posts	I don't know if the 100 Km update has anything to do with the 255 kms TBH. The Xpart PDF on the other thread clearly states that an IPK with less than 255 Kms can be coded to a car. As I read it, the 100 Km update from the LSM shouldn't really matter until the IPK is coded. In this case, Davecw000's IPK may be OK as 150 miles is about 240 Km. __________________ 'Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.

28th January 2009, 18:18	#82
Greeners Moderator MG-ZTT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 19,798 Thanks: 161 Thanked 1,249 Times in 1,036 Posts	I think the 100kms figure is the rate at which the LSM/IPK milages are updated....I think the 255kms is how far you can use it without trashing it...( garage using one to check a fault without coding it for example) Hope that makes sense __________________ *David* Impecunity is the mother of ingenuity Useful how to's for common problems Car Of The Month Jan 2014 [SatNav Power Down] [Coolant Level] [SatNav Repair] [Diesel Non Starting] [Paint Codes] [Rear Light Seals] [Reversing Light Switch] [Bleeding Brakes][Sunroof Drain] [Early ZT's][Instrument Pack Diagnostics][ATC Diagnostics]

28th January 2009, 18:25	#83
peterllewellyn75 Regular poster Rover 75 Saloon 2004 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kinmel Bay NORTH WALES Posts: 57 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi keith you said (It also reads the cars mileage from the backup held in the LSM) what is a LMS and could I use this to check that my mileage on the speedo is correct - Since having the car for no explanation i have a feeling my car as done more than on the speedo peter __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

29th January 2009, 10:42	#86
peterllewellyn75 Regular poster Rover 75 Saloon 2004 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kinmel Bay NORTH WALES Posts: 57 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thanks keith the reason i thought it might have done more miles than on the clock was I had 14500 miles when i purchased it but most of the miles was done in the first year and i had to put new front pads on at 38,000 miles and i have been told that they mainly need changing at about 55000 to 60000 miles peter __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

29th January 2009, 23:41	#87
davecw000 Regular poster rover 75 Saloon, Diesel Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 55 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Message Centre Problems Hi Sorry to have taken such a long time to come back – Checked the IPK and it is for a diesel so that’s OK. Contacted the garage to express my concerns about the mileage reset – But they tried to assure me that there will no problems “once they get their T4 sorted out” – Can see difficult times ahead Regards David

28th January 2009, 21:38	#85
Keith This is my second home ZT400 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ellesmere Posts: 5,948 Thanks: 0 Thanked 43 Times in 29 Posts	No Peter unfortunately you can't compare info between LSM and Cluster These cars carry the miles very well so if Cluster and LSM had been changed or the cluster clocked (and no I can't do that) hence a lower mileage was being displayed you would have to look for the tell tale signs of wear etc pedals, steering wheel, seats etc My Tourer has over 140K on the clock and it really is not that obvious when compared to my saloon with 60k on the clock!

30th January 2009, 13:51	#89
StevenWilliams This is my second home Rover 75 Saloon 2.5 V6 British Racing Green. 81,000 miles and counting Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Crawley, West Sussex Posts: 6,183 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Keep us informed on how you get on. I'd be tempted to swap the old unit back in just in case. I also have a question regarding the IPK upgrades. If I change the internal cutout can you use a Diesel IPK in a Petrol car? Diesel ones can be bought semi cheap but Orange Petrol units are like gold dust. Some people have stated yes and others NO. I'm looking for the difinitive answer hence usingthis thread. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Rover 75 2.5 2000 Club SE. British Racing Green. MEMBER NUMBER: MMMDCCXXVI Looking for: 7 seater