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Old 29th January 2020, 21:39   #1
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When coming to a standstill after a run, put in Park or Neutral, normally engine should idle steadily at 650 rpm or so.

I've noticed that mine sometimes seems not to idle steadily, but to gently rise and fall between about 600 and 1200 rpm, each rise/fall cycle taking about 1-2 seconds

No other obvious symptoms or ill-effects. No problem driving off.

Problem seems to go away and idle ok if I turn engine off and on again.

Only seems to happen when engine is warm after a run, and even then not every time; and not when starting from cold

Any ideas please.

thank you. David
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Old 30th January 2020, 06:45   #2
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I'd start my investigation with the breather hoses and the idler set-up on the throttle body.
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Old 30th January 2020, 07:22   #3
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Mine sometimes did this and when i blipped the throttle it became steady again. I ended up changing the throttle assy and it stopped the problem. i do believe it was an air leak somewhere on the throttle assy but never investigated further
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Old 31st January 2020, 21:42   #4
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Mine sometimes did this and when i blipped the throttle it became steady again. I ended up changing the throttle assy and it stopped the problem. i do believe it was an air leak somewhere on the throttle assy but never investigated further
that seems to concur with similar comments I've read elsewhere which also suggest taking off the idler control valve and giving it a good clean, so I'll have a look when I get a chance. Will be a new thing for me so I hope I can get it all back together without making it worse, or I might be back for more advice!
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Throttle body rebuild kit from Rimmer's will sort the issue.
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Old 31st January 2020, 22:25   #6
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Throttle body rebuild kit from Rimmer's will sort the issue.
"Rebuild kit"? Is that this:
https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-MKG100260L
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Old 1st February 2020, 11:12   #7
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Rover 75 2.5 v6 petrol auto

When coming to a standstill after a run, put in Park or Neutral, normally engine should idle steadily at 650 rpm or so.

I've noticed that mine sometimes seems not to idle steadily, but to gently rise and fall between about 600 and 1200 rpm, each rise/fall cycle taking about 1-2 seconds

No other obvious symptoms or ill-effects. No problem driving off.

Problem seems to go away and idle ok if I turn engine off and on again.

Only seems to happen when engine is warm after a run, and even then not every time; and not when starting from cold

Any ideas please.

thank you. David
Next time it does it, tap the IACV valve with the handle of screwdriver, if the idle settles down then replace the valve or try giving it a good clean.
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Next time it does it, tap the IACV valve with the handle of screwdriver, if the idle settles down then replace the valve or try giving it a good clean.
thank you, I'll try that.


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That's the fella. The plastic bit often sticks after years of service!
Thank you, I'll get one in case just cleaning it doesn't work.
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Thank you, I'll get one in case just cleaning it doesn't work.
The plastic 'T' Piece deforms over time and catches on the throttle body.
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Quick update: I've bought the kit with replacement gasket etc... but since then the original symptom has completely gone away! So I think I'll leave it alone unless the problem comes back, but at least now I am equipped to deal with it straight away if it does recur. If that happens, I will report back on this thread.
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