cdti 115?? or all 135??

keir1163 · 18th July 2010, 08:51

morning chaps.............
i wonder if a learned member can clear the above up?I was under the impression that they were all 135 bhp...............yet some specift 115????

any ideas?

pab · 18th July 2010, 09:36

the CDTi is actually 131 bhp and the CDT is the lower output.

the output of these engines can be increased with a 'synergy 2'

try a search on the above,loads of information

calibrax · 18th July 2010, 09:49

Note that the CDTi is not necessarily a 135. Some cars are 135 from the factory, some were converted by the dealers. So you cannot rely on using "CDT" or "CDTi" to determine the power level. The way is to check is to look up the version/variant on the V5C document and check it against the table (found elsewhere on here). This will tell you what it was when it left the factory. If it's a 115 at that point, then you need to check if it's had a dealer/xpart upgrade. You can find this out by a) looking for a receipt showing the upgrade has been done, or b) look for the "XPower 135" sticker on the passenger door 'B' pillar. If it has this, then it's a 135.

If you still haven't determined what it is after doing the above, then you can have a dealer check by putting the car on a T4.

My car is a 2004 model, it's a CDTi, yet it was a 115 from the factory. The dealer did the upgrade three months after the car was bought (I have the receipt and the sticker).

pab · 18th July 2010, 09:53

interesting,but yet confusing to owners..

what were the changes made in the upgrade?

muey · 18th July 2010, 10:14

Hi all. Mine is a 52 plate cdt. ex -dearlership car and V5 says 115. Suits me fine to be honest but from reading on here, its not too expensive to give the unit more punch. personal choice i suppose.
Regards Mark

keir1163 · 18th July 2010, 11:00

Thanks guys...........i sort of thought this was the case.
So if it is a 135 i understand that it can be bumped up with the synergy 2?

HarryM1BYT · 18th July 2010, 14:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by calibrax

Note that the CDTi is not necessarily a 135. Some cars are 135 from the factory, some were converted by the dealers. So you cannot rely on using "CDT" or "CDTi" to determine the power level. The way is to check is to look up the version/variant on the V5C document and check it against the table (found elsewhere on here). This will tell you what it was when it left the factory. If it's a 115 at that point, then you need to check if it's had a dealer/xpart upgrade. You can find this out by a) looking for a receipt showing the upgrade has been done, or b) look for the "XPower 135" sticker on the passenger door 'B' pillar. If it has this, then it's a 135.

If you still haven't determined what it is after doing the above, then you can have a dealer check by putting the car on a T4.

My car is a 2004 model, it's a CDTi, yet it was a 115 from the factory. The dealer did the upgrade three months after the car was bought (I have the receipt and the sticker).

Mine is a 2004 MkII CDTi and I had thought CDTi meant 135, the extra power output being from the 'i' or intercooler. So off I went looking in vain for a sticker on the passenger side and found nothing.

However looking at the drivers side B pillar, just below the lock, is a Rover sticker with 135ps on it.

calibrax · 18th July 2010, 15:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryM1BYT

Mine is a 2004 MkII CDTi and I had thought CDTi meant 135, the extra power output being from the 'i' or intercooler. So off I went looking in vain for a sticker on the passenger side and found nothing.

However looking at the drivers side B pillar, just below the lock, is a Rover sticker with 135ps on it.

Looks like your dealer stuck it on the wrong side then

The 'i' doesn't stand for intercooler in this case, but I know that on some earlier Rover models it did (for example I had a 420SDLi, and that had an intercooler, and the 420SLD didn't). But all the diesel 75s and ZTs have an intercooler. It seems the badge change from CDT to CDTi was just a marketing ploy.

keir1163 · 18th July 2010, 15:51

guys a well covered subject now.....and i feel confident to buy wither model. To be honest if i plonk a synergy on the 115 i would be happy!

Duotone · 18th July 2010, 17:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by calibrax

Looks like your dealer stuck it on the wrong side then

The 'i' doesn't stand for intercooler in this case, but I know that on some earlier Rover models it did (for example I had a 420SDLi, and that had an intercooler, and the 420SLD didn't). But all the diesel 75s and ZTs have an intercooler. It seems the badge change from CDT to CDTi was just a marketing ploy.

This is the label stuck on the drivers door pillar by Longbridge to denote a 135ps engine had been fitted.

In 2002/2003 when MG Rover introduced the 135ps engine a CDTi badge was fixed to the left side of the boot.

The CDTi badge continued to be fitted to the 75 until the facelift version was introduced, then only the door pillar label was fitted.
The 116ps version never had a CDT badge fitted.
When the £500 upgrade from 116ps to 135ps was completed by a MG Rover dealer no label or boot badge was part of the upgrade.
On completion of the upgrade you were supposed to tell any MG Rover dealer where your 75 was serviced that the upgrade had been done or a session on a T4 could revert the upgrade back to 116ps.

Dave T

18th July 2010, 08:51	#1
keir1163 Loves to post MG ZT+ CDTi Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: castle hedingham Posts: 476 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	cdti 115?? or all 135?? morning chaps............. i wonder if a learned member can clear the above up?I was under the impression that they were all 135 bhp...............yet some specift 115???? any ideas? __________________ Let Battle Commence

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calibrax Posted a thing or two BMW 4 Series Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Rochester, Kent Posts: 1,975 Thanks: 29 Thanked 37 Times in 28 Posts	Note that the CDTi is not necessarily a 135. Some cars are 135 from the factory, some were converted by the dealers. So you cannot rely on using "CDT" or "CDTi" to determine the power level. The way is to check is to look up the version/variant on the V5C document and check it against the table (found elsewhere on here). This will tell you what it was when it left the factory. If it's a 115 at that point, then you need to check if it's had a dealer/xpart upgrade. You can find this out by a) looking for a receipt showing the upgrade has been done, or b) look for the "XPower 135" sticker on the passenger door 'B' pillar. If it has this, then it's a 135. If you still haven't determined what it is after doing the above, then you can have a dealer check by putting the car on a T4. My car is a 2004 model, it's a CDTi, yet it was a 115 from the factory. The dealer did the upgrade three months after the car was bought (I have the receipt and the sticker). __________________ Steve 2004 MG ZT+ CDTi 160 (sadly now gone!) 2015 BMW 435d GranCoupe XDrive

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keir1163 Loves to post MG ZT+ CDTi Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: castle hedingham Posts: 476 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	cheers chaps Thanks guys...........i sort of thought this was the case. So if it is a 135 i understand that it can be bumped up with the synergy 2? __________________ Let Battle Commence

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keir1163 Loves to post MG ZT+ CDTi Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: castle hedingham Posts: 476 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	well covered! guys a well covered subject now.....and i feel confident to buy wither model. To be honest if i plonk a synergy on the 115 i would be happy! __________________ Let Battle Commence

18th July 2010, 09:36	#2
pab Banned MG ZT V6 190+ Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Leeds Posts: 33,223 Thanks: 41 Thanked 1,614 Times in 1,416 Posts	the CDTi is actually 131 bhp and the CDT is the lower output. the output of these engines can be increased with a 'synergy 2' try a search on the above,loads of information

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pab Banned MG ZT V6 190+ Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Leeds Posts: 33,223 Thanks: 41 Thanked 1,614 Times in 1,416 Posts	interesting,but yet confusing to owners.. what were the changes made in the upgrade?

18th July 2010, 10:14	#5
muey Loves to post 75 connoiseur se hi-line tourer cdt Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: nelson,lancs Posts: 299 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Hi all. Mine is a 52 plate cdt. ex -dearlership car and V5 says 115. Suits me fine to be honest but from reading on here, its not too expensive to give the unit more punch. personal choice i suppose. Regards Mark