Our Prisons are a mess and a Complete Joke

stevenicks · 15th February 2017, 14:31

It seems that the con's and not the Guards run the prison these days. Have a look at this from our MCTC (Military Corrective Training Center in Colchester. Even better, bring back the chain gangs

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https://youtu.be/NotqDCjQQ3U

Nick Greg · 15th February 2017, 14:39

Yes in a bad way. Can't help thinking contracting some out to private contractors is partly to blame. Cheaper cost means poor quality. Lets not forget G4S forgot to turn up at Olympics 2012.

jackatesme · 15th February 2017, 14:55

"not wish to come back here" is what it should be all about.

Westonboy · 15th February 2017, 15:17

When I joined the Prison Service in 1978 I was issued with a truncheon made of lignum vitae which I occasionally used to good effect. In the mid eighties I had to surrender it for a new issue lightweight ash wood stave that was totally innefective, I imagine balsa wood was going to be the next progression, or perhaps polystyrene. Good professional officers and public let down by spineless politicians

Mickyboy · 15th February 2017, 15:28

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Originally Posted by Westonboy

When I joined the Prison Service in 1978 I was issued with a truncheon made of lignum vitae which I occasionally used to good effect. In the mid eighties I had to surrender it for a new issue lightweight ash wood stave that was totally innefective, I imagine balsa wood was going to be the next progression, or perhaps polystyrene. Good professional officers and public let down by spineless politicians

Spineless politicians is exactly where the problem lies in my opinion, I for one think that half of them should be in prison for letting the public down

LotusLC · 15th February 2017, 15:34

If i was in charge the really nasty ones would not be in prison, they would be 6 foot under the ground

flying_pig · 15th February 2017, 15:57

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Originally Posted by LotusLC

If i was in charge the really nasty ones would not be in prison, they would be 6 foot under the ground

And the rest of scumbags would be sent to work camps where theyd have to work for their food camp bills and do something for society instead of living on our money

SCP440 · 15th February 2017, 16:40

I have a customer who has a prison record for armed robbery ( he was in a bad place in his life)

He is quite open about his previous life as he calls it, he did say it was not the prison in itself that would stop him offending again but the not being able to do what he wanted if that makes sense.

Apparently for him apart from the lack of freedom the worse thing was the food, he wasn't expecting al a carte but some times it was little better than pig swill in his view. He got an 10 year sentence and was out in 5.

Personally I find the thought of my liberty being taken away from me the scariest part, we have only 3 score and 10 on this planet and to think I could spend 10% or more of that in prison sounds horrific.

BoroRover · 15th February 2017, 18:15

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Originally Posted by Westonboy

When I joined the Prison Service in 1978 I was issued with a truncheon made of lignum vitae which I occasionally used to good effect. In the mid eighties I had to surrender it for a new issue lightweight ash wood stave that was totally innefective, I imagine balsa wood was going to be the next progression, or perhaps polystyrene. Good professional officers and public let down by spineless politicians

Well there have been a few politicians in jail the past few years, no wonder they don't want a tough regime, in case they, or their slimy mates end up in there.

Dallas · 15th February 2017, 18:28

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Originally Posted by stevenicks

bring back the chain gangs

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Bring back public execution, that would sort the problem out.

An eye for an eye, all this pussyfooting around with the justice system is embarrassing, it doesn't work.

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SCP440 I really should get out more....... MG ZT-T 260 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Witney Posts: 2,508 Thanks: 6 Thanked 910 Times in 571 Posts	I have a customer who has a prison record for armed robbery ( he was in a bad place in his life) He is quite open about his previous life as he calls it, he did say it was not the prison in itself that would stop him offending again but the not being able to do what he wanted if that makes sense. Apparently for him apart from the lack of freedom the worse thing was the food, he wasn't expecting al a carte but some times it was little better than pig swill in his view. He got an 10 year sentence and was out in 5. Personally I find the thought of my liberty being taken away from me the scariest part, we have only 3 score and 10 on this planet and to think I could spend 10% or more of that in prison sounds horrific.