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Had some German colleagues visit the office last week and they are very worried about the UK leaving the EU.
Reason ... due to the large contribution that the UK pays into the EU they are worried that their taxes will increase to make up the UK shortfall should we leave. |
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Some interesting viewpoints.
But, I fear that the whole debate is being over-complicated. There is only possble outcome, that regardless of which way the vote goes, we will blame Europe for all our self-created problems and moan for ever. If the vote is to stay in, then the EU and the rest of the world will have conspired gaint us and our interests. If it is to leave, then the EU will have conspired against our interests so that they can keep control of our past contributions and punish us for our dissention by damaging our national interest and ruining the economy etc. There you have it - only one possible outcome - we blame others and moan for ever. Interestingly, it will be the same people moaning one way or the other. On the question of what has the EU done for us? -clean beaches and rivers -cleaner air -lead free petrol -restrictions on landfill dumping -a recycling culture -cheaper mobile charges -cheaper air travel -improved consumer protection -better food labelling -better product safety -single market competition -no paperwork or customs for exports throughout the single market -freedom to travel -labour protection and enhanced social welfare -smoke-free workplaces -equal pay legislation -holiday entitlement -the right not to work more than a 48-hour week without overtime -strongest wildlife protection in the world -EU representation in international forums -EU diplomatic efforts to uphold the nuclear non-proliferation treaty -European arrest warrant -cross border policing to combat human trafficking, arms and drug smuggling -co-operative counter terrorism intelligence -laws to protect the rights of the ordinary citizen What has the EU ever done for us? |
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I have no doubt that they are worried but when it comes to the plain economic facts we both need each other. If we vote to leave then where are we going to sell the bulk of our goods and services that until now go to the EU. If, upon exit, we want to continue with this relationship then we need to re-engage with Brussels in some form and I shudder to think how long that would take. If we don't want to send a further penny to Brussels (that appears to be the issue for many and yes I'd like to see the amount being less than it is) then where to next 'cos Europe would become a very difficult nut to crack to the detriment to UK business. I don't think the Outers have even gone as far as drafting their economic plan on the back of a fag packet yet ... Quote:
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For instance would we still be running the majority of our cars on leaded petrol today if we were outside the EU? I think not. |
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I think that list is a mixed bag, some of them they have done, some that they have done I'm not sure that they've achieved a great deal. And some we are quite capable of doing on our own, some not of course.
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How many others do? What's the point of it?
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Its sad that companies flout the law. You can opt out, but there's always people ready to think they don't have to follow the law.
The idea was to stop people working too many hours. |
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