newbie

ape195 · 21st September 2009, 19:34

We have just bought a rover 75 diesel auto tourer. Great car,great drive very happy!! All of a sudden she developed starting problems,sometime starts on first pull, sometimes though she struggles and sometimes starts and then dies. Getting through diesel like nobodys' business, in at the garage at the mo. changed one fuel pump still suffering starting problems (from cold or warm makes no difference). Garage is stumped and suggest changing another fuel pump!! Also told I had a problem with my 'air math meter' ?? Does anyone know what this does?! It has been changed twice and still registers a fault on the diagnostic computer. Am told it is not within range all the time.
Can anyone help with any ideas??
Thank you
Ape 195

P.S. She is a 2001 model,

phil1960 · 21st September 2009, 20:16

sounds like fuel pump in tank has come apart needs red clip do a search on here loads of info and its air mass meter this will affect fuel consumption

stocktake · 21st September 2009, 20:20

Petrol man myself, sure an oil burner chappie will be along in a mo

Do a search for FOC ( fabled orange clip) (Forget that bit JDC confirmed below it is not present on the Diesel.) I assume the other item is the MAF, again do a search

OOPS Sorry....................

kevin · 22nd September 2009, 05:50

How much diesel in the tank when it will not start.
petrol man like stocktake but sure i've read if the car will not start and the diesel is low its the in tank pump.

JohnDotCom · 22nd September 2009, 08:58

MAF (Mass Air Flow Sensor) sounds your other problem which often can go at not particularly high mileages.
Is the garage using a T4 diagnostic Computer as if not a Ex Rover dealer or a XPart Euro Service centre chances are they are using a Generic code reader not very applicable to our cars I'm afraid.

If your car has two pumps (one under bonnet) then starting problems may occur if in tank or under-bonnet have gone or on way out.
If you are failing to start with less than a quarter of a tank of fuel sounds like in tank pump.

No Orange Clip as far as I am aware on Diesels. (but knowing me could well be wrong)

MPG depends a lot on Driving style on distances driven.
With a Auto Box around towns you will be getting high 20's but once on a run or motorway driving you will be high 40's.
Many get higher but combined anything from 35 to 50 MPG.
Until a Diesel warms up it does drink more fuel as it won't use top gear,
so short stop/start runs or under 7 miles or so will use more fuel,
this will be noticed more as the winter arrives.

What are you getting MPG and use Brim to Brim method don't rely on on board Computer as can be inaccurate unless calibrated.

Welcome to the Club by the way.

Evansabove · 22nd September 2009, 13:32

April,
Sewards in Christchurch at Avro Business Centre, Grange Road, Christchurch, Dorset, BH23 1EZ on 01425 282400 are the Xpart dealer for our area. I live in Tuckton and am happy to give local advice if needed.

John

ape195 · 22nd September 2009, 17:33

Thanks everyone for your advice, I will pass on these ideas to the garage tomorrow, as they still have the car!!
I've actually never noticed the amount of diesel in tank when this happens, maybe I should have.
If any of you have any more thoughts then feel freeto post here. Thanks
Not going to let these problems put me off the car as we love her!!

ape195 · 22nd September 2009, 19:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evansabove

April,
Sewards in Christchurch at Avro Business Centre, Grange Road, Christchurch, Dorset, BH23 1EZ on 01425 282400 are the Xpart dealer for our area. I live in Tuckton and am happy to give local advice if needed.

John

Thanks Evansabove, we did think of Seawards ( there is also one in Wallisdown) but thought they might be rather expensive being main dealers. (Though maybe in the long run they may not have been)!!!

21st September 2009, 19:34	#1
ape195 Newbie rover 75 tourer Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Help Please We have just bought a rover 75 diesel auto tourer. Great car,great drive very happy!! All of a sudden she developed starting problems,sometime starts on first pull, sometimes though she struggles and sometimes starts and then dies. Getting through diesel like nobodys' business, in at the garage at the mo. changed one fuel pump still suffering starting problems (from cold or warm makes no difference). Garage is stumped and suggest changing another fuel pump!! Also told I had a problem with my 'air math meter' ?? Does anyone know what this does?! It has been changed twice and still registers a fault on the diagnostic computer. Am told it is not within range all the time. Can anyone help with any ideas?? Thank you Ape 195 P.S. She is a 2001 model, __________________ April Last edited by ape195; 21st September 2009 at 19:47..

21st September 2009, 20:20	#3
stocktake Vis Whiz Rover 75 2.5 auto Saloon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: LEEDS Posts: 20,591 Thanks: 2,057 Thanked 3,056 Times in 1,621 Posts	Petrol man myself, sure an oil burner chappie will be along in a mo Do a search for FOC ( fabled orange clip) (Forget that bit JDC confirmed below it is not present on the Diesel.) I assume the other item is the MAF, again do a search OOPS Sorry.................... __________________ Dave... Lost a few stones and a Gall Bladder and part of a bile duct and all of my dignity in the suppository incident Last edited by stocktake; 22nd September 2009 at 13:42..

22nd September 2009, 17:33	#7
ape195 Newbie rover 75 tourer Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	re: HELP PLEASE Thanks everyone for your advice, I will pass on these ideas to the garage tomorrow, as they still have the car!! I've actually never noticed the amount of diesel in tank when this happens, maybe I should have. If any of you have any more thoughts then feel freeto post here. Thanks Not going to let these problems put me off the car as we love her!! __________________ April

21st September 2009, 20:16	#2
phil1960 Regular poster rover 75 cdti Join Date: May 2009 Location: stevenage Posts: 78 Thanks: 5 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	sounds like fuel pump in tank has come apart needs red clip do a search on here loads of info and its air mass meter this will affect fuel consumption

22nd September 2009, 05:50	#4
kevin I really should get out more....... ford focus ghia Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: herts Posts: 2,553 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	How much diesel in the tank when it will not start. petrol man like stocktake but sure i've read if the car will not start and the diesel is low its the in tank pump.

22nd September 2009, 08:58	#5
JohnDotCom * Rover 75 FaceLift Tourer CDTi 170BHP Auto ConnSE 2005 Model Starlight Silver Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Abergele Posts: 28,735 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	MAF (Mass Air Flow Sensor) sounds your other problem which often can go at not particularly high mileages. Is the garage using a T4 diagnostic Computer as if not a Ex Rover dealer or a XPart Euro Service centre chances are they are using a Generic code reader not very applicable to our cars I'm afraid. If your car has two pumps (one under bonnet) then starting problems may occur if in tank or under-bonnet have gone or on way out. If you are failing to start with less than a quarter of a tank of fuel sounds like in tank pump. No Orange Clip as far as I am aware on Diesels. (but knowing me could well be wrong) MPG depends a lot on Driving style on distances driven. With a Auto Box around towns you will be getting high 20's but once on a run or motorway driving you will be high 40's. Many get higher but combined anything from 35 to 50 MPG. Until a Diesel warms up it does drink more fuel as it won't use top gear, so short stop/start runs or under 7 miles or so will use more fuel, this will be noticed more as the winter arrives. What are you getting MPG and use Brim to Brim method don't rely on on board Computer as can be inaccurate unless calibrated. Welcome to the Club by the way.

22nd September 2009, 13:32	#6
Evansabove Loves to post Rover 75 CDT Conn SE Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 272 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	April, Sewards in Christchurch at Avro Business Centre, Grange Road, Christchurch, Dorset, BH23 1EZ on 01425 282400 are the Xpart dealer for our area. I live in Tuckton and am happy to give local advice if needed. John