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Old 18th December 2009, 23:28   #21
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It seems crazy if you're parked up. The law going mad.
A lesson for us all I guess.
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Old 18th December 2009, 23:42   #22
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It seems crazy if you're parked up. The law going mad.
A lesson for us all I guess.
As I've said before....

" The law is NOT an " small mule " - Its a Donkey Sanctuary!!"
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Old 18th December 2009, 23:59   #23
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I lost my respect a long time ago and was always taught to lead by example.

It isn't helped when as a layman I knew more about the legalities quoted than the person quoting them.
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Old 19th December 2009, 09:38   #24
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I'm with MN190. It's laws like this and the jobsworth target obsessed coppers who enforce them that made any respect I had for the Police evaporate.
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Old 19th December 2009, 13:49   #25
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So, let me get this straight. If I am parked in a motorway service area, engine off, but keys in the ignition because I want to listen to the radio and I take a phone call then I could be prosecuted.

What half-witted cretin thought that up?

I suppose I shouldn't be suprised in a country where the 3 most powerful men are non-drivers.

Well just spoken to a Bobby who lives next door, and he "thinks" the engine has to be OFF

So maybe keys in the ignition may be OK.
He suggested this case should be challenged in Court.
(but he's not a Traffic Bobby so didn't really want to comment) but he was understanding that a lot of the population have indeed lost respect for the Police in recent years. Bit then it's the LAW makers we need to challenge not the Bobbies enforcing it.
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Old 19th December 2009, 13:56   #26
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Bit then it's the LAW makers we need to challenge not the Bobbies enforcing it.
These days most of the law makers have lost common sense IMHO.
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Old 19th December 2009, 16:31   #27
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The law also specifically targets mobile phones. Us radio hams and indeed taxis are free to carry on using our fist mic free of fear of prosecution - EXCEPT... the risk of a careless driving charge if doing it whilst driving. But AFAIK, there hasn't been a single prosecution of a radio ham.

Anyway, I recall that someone got off a charge of using a mobile phone whilst parked with engine running as they said they were dictating notes for a meeting and were not making a call. Hmmm... not sure I'd try that one.

Anyway, tis a stupid law. Careless driving would suffice for anyone eating, drinking, texting, phoning whilst driving. When stationary and parked (handbrake etc) what is the harm?

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Old 19th December 2009, 18:20   #28
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Bit then it's the LAW makers we need to challenge not the Bobbies enforcing it.
Agreed, but unfortunately its the Police who are in the firing line and losing the respect and confidence of otherwise law-abiding citizens by even contemplating enforcing something as utterly assenine as this. Surely common sense shoulkd have prevailed; Oh yeah, I forgot this Copper had an arrest target to meet so he took the route of the easy pull.

Sadly, all this sort of stuff does is alienate the public even more.
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Old 19th December 2009, 18:23   #29
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But AFAIK, there hasn't been a single prosecution of a radio ham.
There have been several in the Wolverhampton area this year alone.

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Old 19th December 2009, 18:37   #30
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I've just been offered tickets for a policeman's ball, turned it down when I found out it was a raffle..........
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