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Old 7th December 2018, 12:12   #21
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I know nothing about the intricacies of auto boxes or the manufacture of fluid for them but surely if the required standard is N402 (JF403E & JF506E) then anything that meets that standard can be used? Otherwise where is the point of the standard?
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Old 7th December 2018, 12:40   #22
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Car manufacturers don't make ATF, or Coolant they just buy in bulk from the companies that do. It's put in a container with a fancy label on it with the appropriate part number.

There's a lot of decent companies offering suitable ATF for considerably less. Rimmer's want £42 for 4 litre, if you look at Mannol multivehicle you can get 8 litres for £36, I got a 20 litre drum for about £86 a while ago that was including shipping from Germany

It pays to do a bit of shopping around.

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HI Russ.
Thank you for posting yes I also like to shop around, but being as I have ordered the oil and got a different one to my order.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Comma...L/372411991616

I am really trying to find out could if it can be used in our cars or do I return it and purchase what as been highlighted by Paul & John, in the link below.

If the oil that as been sent me is ok to use I will use that as a winter change or as a flushing oil and add this one below come spring
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ATF-N402-...52~O:rk:1:pf:0

I have sent them a message asking the same question also about returning but at no cost to me hopefully.
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Old 7th December 2018, 12:48   #23
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Thanks for bringing this new fluid to our attention Steve. I have included it in my list of ATF meeting N402 specification. There's a lot of choice and Comma lists its MVATF Plus as meeting N402 so it will be fine in your car Steve. There's no need to return it.

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Old 7th December 2018, 12:55   #24
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As I may have mentioned before my Auto has its fluid changed regularly at a Long established EX MGR Dealer and they use Millers Oils .



this is whats in my old bus ..
Millermatic ATF SP III-WS

And its only managed 151k so far without a problem ..
theres No mention of N402 in the specs now ,


but lots of other cross references .



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Old 12th December 2018, 01:10   #25
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I used this off of ebay earlier this year when I changed all the fluid in my auto box in the Tourer. Used about 8 litres. Drained,filled and flushed through disconnected trans oil cooler pipe a few times until oil came out same colour as new oil (original oil in box was very dark !)
Made a difference,changes bit smoother after fluid change.
Oil has Jatco and MG/Rover part number on label
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ATF-N402-...52~O:rk:1:pf:0

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Hi Paul

I used the same oil after it being mentioned on an earlier thread.... I think it was Simon (SD1)

However, I ordered it from the Smith & Allen web site rather than eBay as I researched them a bit, and I think it actually worked out a bit cheaper...

Fast delivery from them, and I noticed an improvement in gear changes straight away.

My 75 had done 61000 when I changed earlier this year, and I did the "disconnect oil cooler to flush more oil out" method like you Paul, as described in another excellent thread on here by Beinet1 (spelling?)

So much good information from this Forum .... much of it from Steve (Arctic) as well!

Good with the fluid change, Steve. Easy job for you!

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Hi Paul & John.
I managed to get a refund on one of the oils, the other one is here and should have been collected yesterday at 14.00pm but no one turned up, so I am dropping it of at local store of theirs tomorrow.

I ordered the ATF 402 oil Paul linked to on Saturday night about 11.45pm, it got delivered yesterday morning 10.05am when I got back home checked the box and all was ok, so gearbox oil change for me sometime this weekend or start of the next week, thank you lads for the heads up.
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the oil story is a huge scam.
I ran around looking for oil for my V8. This is a Ford automatic, which is supposed to use a Mercon grade oil.
The local Ford dealers don't even use that! they fill with a Dexron grade oil.
Then I started to check and found a Castrol ATF that claims to be Dexron AND Mercon compatible!!
That, plus the fact that Jatco, the supplier of Rover boxes, is a Nissan supplier where special oils are not specified! makes me say:
Anyone thinking Rover's autoboxes are different from Nissan's are dreaming.
Thus any specific oil requirements for the Rovers is just hype.

I have therefore just used good quality Dexron in my rovers for the last 4 years, no problems, whatsoever.
Go figure!
https://www.castrol.com/en_gb/united...luids/atf.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._transmissions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jatco_JF506E_transmission
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Hi Steve. I have looked on Comma’s website, and it is compatible with atf N402. Say no more.
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That, plus the fact that Jatco, the supplier of Rover boxes, is a Nissan supplier where special oils are not specified! makes me say:
Anyone thinking Rover's autoboxes are different from Nissan's are dreaming.
Thus any specific oil requirements for the Rovers is just hype
https://www.castrol.com/en_gb/united...luids/atf.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._transmissions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jatco_JF506E_transmission

Jatco was founded by Nissan Mazda were involved for a while but it's now partly owned by Mitsubishi.

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Wonder why they bother. Their own INVECS II box is a masterpiece.
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