Retail security tips if anyone's done it before.

Lordy · 22nd February 2018, 20:00

Hiya all the new job is going really well Caught a thief today after catching him out trying too nick a bottle of Jack Daniels.

I was lucky there tho as I was going around I could see he was checking on me every now and again and saw the conceals straight away after I tuned away slipped right into the bag.

For the last few days its been interesting, how people shop lift and also seeing the tricks that they use too get past security and also the barriers as well with the alarm system.

Its not like the doors where you pull someone too one side if you think there acting out of character, You got too be 100% sure if you don't you can get sued or lose your job just by getting it wrong.

I like it but the rules and regulations conflict what I've been doing over the years, I'll get used too it.

If anyone that's done this line of work before please let me know as I like to be one step ahead in terms of catching hardcore shop lifters.

Lordy · 22nd February 2018, 20:44

Other thing too add, I can't touch'em or grab them in anyway at all or I get sued, On the doors anything goes too a certain degree.

So if I see a shop lifter I can only use harsh language and hopefully they'll stop, beep that I'll go after them, not letting thief's steal from the shop I'm going too do my damn best too get there items back and prevent anymore shop lifting.

Human rights give more rights too the criminals then the security.

The paper work they gave me on Tuesday in a real life situation its useless.

stevestrat · 22nd February 2018, 21:08

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Originally Posted by Lord Rover

So if I see a shop lifter I can only use harsh language and hopefully they'll stop, beep that I'll go after them, not letting thief's steal from the shop I'm going too do my damn best too get there items back and prevent anymore shop lifting.

Don't get overenthusiastic Dave. There was a recent case (about a year ago?) where a security guard tackled a guy who had been stealing bottles of spirits from Asda, the guy fell smashing the bottles he was concealing cutting his stomach to ribbons, despite the best efforts of ambulance staff etc he bled to death. The security guard was arrested on suspicion of manslaughter but wasn't charged. However his SIA license was revoked and I don't think he ever got it back.

Lordy · 22nd February 2018, 21:14

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Originally Posted by stevestrat

Don't get overenthusiastic Dave. There was a recent case (about a year ago?) where a security guard tackled a guy who had been stealing bottles of spirits from Asda, the guy fell smashing the bottles he was concealing cutting his stomach to ribbons, despite the best efforts of ambulance staff etc he bled to death. The security guard was arrested on suspicion of manslaughter but wasn't charged. However his SIA license was revoked and I don't think he ever got it back.

Jesus h Beep I didn;'t know about this, when did this happen?

Oh my god what have I got myself into.

Guess I'll be sticking protocols from now on.

That hit me like a ton of bricks.

I hate when they get away just annoys the hell out of me.

75c · 22nd February 2018, 21:21

Are you SIA licensed Dave?

Lordy · 22nd February 2018, 21:22

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Originally Posted by 75c

Are you SIA licensed Dave?

Sure arm been badged since 2012 need too update it again this year it will be my third one then.

stevestrat · 22nd February 2018, 21:30

It was actually last May, BBC News webpage.

Lordy · 22nd February 2018, 21:36

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Originally Posted by stevestrat

It was actually last May, BBC News webpage.

That security guard was really lucky not too be charged, did the job and the man he chased was killed for it.

I bet my money thief's will use this and will try and do it more often, any Advantages they'll take it.

Ros3 · 22nd February 2018, 21:58

I have done retail security before... Long, long shifts with not a lot happening can make the day drag a bit but when you have a lifter on the go it can be thrilling stuff...

madeupname · 22nd February 2018, 22:25

Hi Dave, glad to hear you're enjoying it

So, advice. Because you are restricted with regard to detention, the first thing to do is make sure you can get the thief's face on camera. Simply nodding in a certain direction will get them to look

We went through the Maybo training where you restrain people without actually grabbing them, but in a real life situation this is next to impossible to do. (well it is for me anyway!)
As long as you have video footage for the Police to look at that should be enough. They will probably recognise them anyway.
Keep up the good work

22nd February 2018, 20:00	#1
Lordy This is my second home Ford Probe GT. Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Caenarfron Posts: 7,897 Thanks: 3,533 Thanked 2,516 Times in 1,481 Posts	Retail security tips if anyone's done it before. Hiya all the new job is going really well Caught a thief today after catching him out trying too nick a bottle of Jack Daniels. I was lucky there tho as I was going around I could see he was checking on me every now and again and saw the conceals straight away after I tuned away slipped right into the bag. For the last few days its been interesting, how people shop lift and also seeing the tricks that they use too get past security and also the barriers as well with the alarm system. Its not like the doors where you pull someone too one side if you think there acting out of character, You got too be 100% sure if you don't you can get sued or lose your job just by getting it wrong. I like it but the rules and regulations conflict what I've been doing over the years, I'll get used too it. If anyone that's done this line of work before please let me know as I like to be one step ahead in terms of catching hardcore shop lifters. __________________ Regardless of nation and Origin all Soldiers should be remembered past or present. Lest we forget. Never forget them and support our armed forces. https://i.imgur.com/oyca2Lyl.jpg?1 Passion Never Dies It Only Gets Stronger. Go your own way. Last edited by Lordy; 22nd February 2018 at 20:12..

22nd February 2018, 20:44	#2
Lordy This is my second home Ford Probe GT. Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Caenarfron Posts: 7,897 Thanks: 3,533 Thanked 2,516 Times in 1,481 Posts	Other thing too add, I can't touch'em or grab them in anyway at all or I get sued, On the doors anything goes too a certain degree. So if I see a shop lifter I can only use harsh language and hopefully they'll stop, beep that I'll go after them, not letting thief's steal from the shop I'm going too do my damn best too get there items back and prevent anymore shop lifting. Human rights give more rights too the criminals then the security. The paper work they gave me on Tuesday in a real life situation its useless. __________________ Regardless of nation and Origin all Soldiers should be remembered past or present. Lest we forget. Never forget them and support our armed forces. https://i.imgur.com/oyca2Lyl.jpg?1 Passion Never Dies It Only Gets Stronger. Go your own way.

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madeupname Posted a thing or two Rover 75 Connie Mk2 1.8 (Mo) Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Sheffield Posts: 1,531 Thanks: 875 Thanked 335 Times in 289 Posts	Hi Dave, glad to hear you're enjoying it So, advice. Because you are restricted with regard to detention, the first thing to do is make sure you can get the thief's face on camera. Simply nodding in a certain direction will get them to look We went through the Maybo training where you restrain people without actually grabbing them, but in a real life situation this is next to impossible to do. (well it is for me anyway!) As long as you have video footage for the Police to look at that should be enough. They will probably recognise them anyway. Keep up the good work __________________ Mo was born Tuesday, 22nd June 2004 @ 08:32:41 This vehicle was the 99,307th 75 to run off the production line, out of 112,381 This vehicle was the 5,377th 75 1.8 Connoisseur to be made out of 6,033 This vehicle was the 783rd 75 in Firefrost Red (code: CEV) to be made out of 2,089 Firefrost Red 75s

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Ros3 This is my second home Rover 75 V6 saloon (gone to the Rover garage in the sky), Mazda mx5 Phoenix. Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Cumnock Posts: 3,215 Thanks: 347 Thanked 157 Times in 92 Posts	I have done retail security before... Long, long shifts with not a lot happening can make the day drag a bit but when you have a lifter on the go it can be thrilling stuff...