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Old 24th January 2020, 22:32   #11
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I'm a big fan of Avons even though they're no longer British owned/made.
Bought a set in Oct17 for £230 and 20,000 later they're still pretty good.
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Old 25th January 2020, 00:21   #12
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Cheers Alan – I actually had her booked in with Kerr’s a few weeks ago to get the alignment done, then crashed the TF and cancelled it as I had other priorities! I’m hoping to try again next week or so, and I’ll definitely post the results here when I do


Just as a matter of interest, last time I had her up to Mark to get something done at the front, he told me Magowan’s had tightened the wheel nuts to some massive torque, and to have a word with them. I forgot about it, thinking well, I have a breaker bar if I ever need to get a wheel off… so a couple of days ago, I tried to swap the rear wheels due to the uneven wear, and got alarmed at the pressure I was exerting even with that (and the nuts still not shifting).


I decided to get Magowan’s to re-torque them, which they did (and swapped the wheels), and to be fair didn’t attempt to charge me, though the guy was adamant that their airguns COULDN'T overtighten, as “they only go up to 95NM”. Obviously he’d never heard of faulty equipment – and anyway, that’s still about 25% too high for the Rover. Will try Kerr’s next time…
When it came to tightening up, I was impressed by Kerr's. Not just my car each time it was in, but when I watched them do other cars, they initially did the wheel bolts up with a lightweight electric gun, finalising them with a decent looking torque wrench by hand - each one turning slightly and clicking.
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Old 25th January 2020, 09:14   #13
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So what of the Landsail? well as only the second full set of budget tyres I've had experience of, fitted to a 75 or ZT........they are absolutely dreadful, ruin the ride compliance, unbelievably noisy on certain road surfaces, and will soon to be going the journey.

Thanks for all the useful and interesting contributions, chaps. Brian – not sure what to say… I have had no noise issues, ride problems or anything else with the Landsails. One of the things people remark on in my car (there aren’t that many of them here, so most have never been in one) is how quietly and smoothly it cruises along.


My only problem is what I perceive to be excessive wear. How strange that our experiences are so different!


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what is 25% to high, 95nm for wheel bolts? I don't think so. wheel bolts are 125nm

Sorry, brain fade – I was thinking of my TF. But if their gun only goes to 95, then my bolts should be too loose, not too tight… so God knows what they did
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Old 25th January 2020, 09:39   #14
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Just reading this for the first time.

The first thing that jumps to mind which we don't in the the UK but our European friends do is fit seasonal tyres. I have friends in Germany and they have 2 X sets of wheels for their cars and the winter tyres go on late Autumn. There are not many in the UK who do this but it must make a difference but obviously cost is more

On my Supra I normally run Vredisteins who a lot of owners recommend and/ or Goodyear's. Because I have aftermarket wheels it is a bit of trial and error but after 10 years of ownership I have kind of settled to the tyres I know work.

On the ZTs I have normally run Firestone and/or continentals which seem fairly good.
The big thing with our cars now will be suspension where the suspension will be 20-25 years old and way past its best tbh. This will cause all sorts of wear issues and is the same on most older cars.

One thing I have always noted is that front wheel drive cars who pull the car and steer it as well tend to eat tyres quicker than rear wheel drive cars but they just be me.

Then there is tyre compound. Sounds very F1 but it's true. I found Toyos wore very quickly on my Sup. We can buy tyres with softer compounds but they will wear faster.

I still do think (disagreeing with some of the statements) that the better quality tyres should last longer but I do agree they may not suit the car you drive and not be as efficient.
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Old 25th January 2020, 14:19   #15
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I decided to get Magowan’s to re-torque them, which they did (and swapped the wheels), and to be fair didn’t attempt to charge me, though the guy was adamant that their airguns COULDN'T overtighten, as “they only go up to 95NM”. Obviously he’d never heard of faulty equipment – and anyway, that’s still about 25% too high for the Rover. Will try Kerr’s next time…

There is another 'thing' that I do when I get new tyres, or am removing a wheel. After cleaning the bolt on removal, smear a thin layer of copper grease onto the shoulder of the bolt and with the residue on my finger, I will drag it over the threads in a straight line. It will leave a fine deposit of grease, which will spread thinly over the threads, as it is tightened. Over tightening the bolts runs the risk of corrosion between the bolts and wheels, because of the dissimilar metals, which can add to the difficulty of removal.
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Old 25th January 2020, 14:57   #16
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I had some BCT tyres supplied with a set of 17" straights. They looked new were very good in the dry but in the wet it was like driving on ice, they were very dangerous. Replaced them with Avon ZV5s and I was very happy with those as an all season tyre and had no issues with them.

Changed the car which came with three makes of Chinese ditch finders which were within a couple of weeks replaced with Avon ZV7s. Happy with these for a while then noticed the braking distance seemed to be lengthening and varying. Checked out the brakes all sound there. Then it was noticed that all four tyres were cracking at the base of the tread. As these tyre were 2 yrs old still well within the 6 year guarantee given and had only covered 3000 miles I contacted the manufacturers who told me it was a known fault. They blamed it on EU regs. on rubber compounds and it was showing up on low usage cars. Most have worn out apparently before it shows. They said " we HOPE we have fixed it now but will only know in time". They told me to return them to the suppliers they will send them back to them and I will get a refund based on wear. This is the tyre manufacturers association rules and the only way they will work The tyres were supplied by two different companies, one has given me a realistic refund, the second nothing. The tyres have got lost in transit so no inspection no refund. Did I not expect that. Yes I did.

Now using Khumo and very happy with them, I think they perform overall better than the ZV7s
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Old 25th January 2020, 17:30   #17
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a thin layer of copper grease... drag it over the threads in a straight line.

Funny, I always do that on EVERYTHING. I was doing it only yesterday with some taps etc in the bathroom...
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Old 25th January 2020, 17:35   #18
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Funny, I always do that on EVERYTHING. I was doing it only yesterday with some taps etc in the bathroom...
Hmm, Coppaslip contains lead and beryllium, I wouldn't want that in with my toothbrush

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Old 25th January 2020, 17:38   #19
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When I bought my MG ZS 5 years ago, it had a set of nearly new Landsail tyres on.
They are still on. ( All but 1 as I had a puncture too close to the side wall for the tyre place to repair. )

I had never heard of them and was suspicious about how they would perform, but I can honestly say that I have been more than happy with them.
Wet weather driving never concerned me. Even enthusiastic driving in the wet and they hugged the tarmac as if it where dry.

But. Road noise. Oh my!
What a din!
I took all my carpets out of the car and fitted extra sound proofing, but it never really sorted the problem.

Now I've not experienced them on a ZT / R75, just my ZS which is much lighter, but if your hearing isn't up to much anyway, as a budget tyre I rate them for safety.
Noise level though, they aught to come with ear defenders!

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Hmm, Coppaslip contains lead and beryllium, I wouldn't want that in with my toothbrush

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No Brian, I used my FINGER, not my toothbrush


Talking about the threads on the tap tails, no connection with the world above the basin...
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