High pressure pump refurb - Page 3

T16 · 5th December 2014, 09:23

Definitely a 22?!

Someone else on another thread said 21mm, and this is a pain in the bum to find locally, but I'm sure I have a 22.

Only other this is can the main gasket that the pump mounts with be re-used, or should I purchase new?

THanks for all your help, hopefully will have my car back before the end of the weekend.

marinabrian · 5th December 2014, 10:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by T16

Definitely a 22?!

Someone else on another thread said 21mm, and this is a pain in the bum to find locally, but I'm sure I have a 22.

Only other this is can the main gasket that the pump mounts with be re-used, or should I purchase new?

THanks for all your help, hopefully will have my car back before the end of the weekend.

I would replace it, and here it is

LINK

Brian

Arctic · 6th December 2014, 11:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by T16

Definitely a 22?!

Someone else on another thread said 21mm, and this is a pain in the bum to find locally, but I'm sure I have a 22.

Only other this is can the main gasket that the pump mounts with be re-used, or should I purchase new?

THanks for all your help, hopefully will have my car back before the end of the weekend.

Hi Ross.
While in the shed looking at something else I decided to check the HFP I have, this is what I found below 22mm & 21mm are to big yet when I tried a 21mm shock socket on it that seems to fit ok ? so it could well be a 20mm, someone maybe able to convert it better than me, couple of charts below

0.787 20mm 20mm 0.813 13/16 AF 0.820 7/16 Wworth; 1/2 BSF 0.826 21mm 21mm 0.866 22mm 22mm 0.875 7/8 AF http://www.dummett.net/ime/website/i...ner_sizes.html

T16 · 6th December 2014, 14:55

Ok nearly done. Everyones help has been amazing, saved myself a fortune if this works!

So much for diesel pumps needing to be ultra clean, corrosion around those little connector pipes and one was stuck in solid to one of the heads.

Made a little mark on the end of one getting it out, but from what I can see the sealing surface is the inside tube section, so should be ok!

Just one thing though.

Did anyone take off that big black plate on the end where the shaft comes out?

I have two big green seals left, that I imagine go inside there. Should I bother?

I cant seem to get that black bit off at all.

Arctic · 6th December 2014, 15:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by T16

Ok nearly done. Everyones help has been amazing, saved myself a fortune if this works!

So much for diesel pumps needing to be ultra clean, corrosion around those little connector pipes and one was stuck in solid to one of the heads.

Made a little mark on the end of one getting it out, but from what I can see the sealing surface is the inside tube section, so should be ok!

Just one thing though.

Did anyone take off that big black plate on the end where the shaft comes out?

I have two big green seals left, that I imagine go inside there. Should I bother?

I cant seem to get that black bit off at all.

Hi Ross.
Do you mean this part below if so looks to be three screws holding it on weather to change the seals or not I don't know but if you have changed all the other why not.

T16 · 7th December 2014, 01:52

Yeah thats the bit.

Gave up with that in the end, it would not budge and I was not about to start levering and damaging it with a screwdriver.

The service guys must have pullers or a tool to remove it properly.

Pump back on and working fine thankfully.

I used a genuine Bosch Service kit and another for the regulator also.

Kits are the following part numbers for reference for anybody else:-

Main pump seal kit : F 01M 101 454
Regulator seal kit : F 00R 0P1 466 and F 00V D38 011

All genuine Bosch, and from a really nice chap from Breedon and Gell down south. All in was about £23 or so for the lot. Certainly is a MUCH better option than messing with super expensive reconditioned pumps, and also better than getting an ebay kit and having it fail later. At least with the genuine stuff you know its going to work and stay working! After all, the original seals managed 160k miles....

Hopefully someone can add the Seal kits to a sticky, as well as the supplier, he really was very helpful and the price was great.

Car starting after priming it by turning the ignition key on and letting the low pressure pump do its work, then a couple of cranks later she fired into life and was happy.

There really is nothing to wear on the inside of these pumps if they are lubricated with diesel their whole lives, so the seal kit for me is the perfect way forward. Many thanks to everyone.

Also anyone else doing this, turn your regulator 180deg so you can access the clip mechanism from above, the regulator plug is super tight, and mine was on facing downwards so could only gently lever the latch up when the HP Pump was coming out.

Arctic · 7th December 2014, 10:47

I used a genuine Bosch Service kit and another for the regulator also.

Kits are the following part numbers for reference for anybody else:-

Main pump seal kit : F 01M 101 454
Regulator seal kit : F 00R 0P1 466 and F 00V D38 011

All genuine Bosch, and from a really nice chap from Breedon and Gell down south. All in was about £23 or so for the lot. Certainly is a MUCH better option than messing with super expensive reconditioned pumps, and also better than getting an ebay kit and having it fail later. At least with the genuine stuff you know its going to work and stay working! After all, the original seals managed 160k miles..

HI Ross.
Do you have a link to the above seal kits from Breedon and Gell so members can just click the link, great thread by the way and thank you for reporting back how it went cheers Arctic

marinabrian · 7th December 2014, 13:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arctic

I used a genuine Bosch Service kit and another for the regulator also.

Kits are the following part numbers for reference for anybody else:-

Main pump seal kit : F 01M 101 454
Regulator seal kit : F 00R 0P1 466 and F 00V D38 011

All genuine Bosch, and from a really nice chap from Breedon and Gell down south. All in was about £23 or so for the lot. Certainly is a MUCH better option than messing with super expensive reconditioned pumps, and also better than getting an ebay kit and having it fail later. At least with the genuine stuff you know its going to work and stay working! After all, the original seals managed 160k miles..

HI Ross.
Do you have a link to the above seal kits from Breedon and Gell so members can just click the link, great thread by the way and thank you for reporting back how it went cheers Arctic

And as if by magic.......

A LINK appears

Brian

Arctic · 7th December 2014, 13:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by marinabrian

And as if by magic.......

A LINK appears

Brian

Hi Brian.
Link is not working for me ?

marinabrian · 7th December 2014, 14:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arctic

Hi Brian.
Link is not working for me ?

Is for me Steve

How about their main page?, the site is fairly user friendly

LINK

Brian

7th December 2014, 10:47	#27
Arctic Give to Learn Freelander 2 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: West Midlands Posts: 18,713 Thanks: 1,155 Thanked 6,407 Times in 3,874 Posts	I used a genuine Bosch Service kit and another for the regulator also. Kits are the following part numbers for reference for anybody else:- Main pump seal kit : F 01M 101 454 Regulator seal kit : F 00R 0P1 466 and F 00V D38 011 All genuine Bosch, and from a really nice chap from Breedon and Gell down south. All in was about £23 or so for the lot. Certainly is a MUCH better option than messing with super expensive reconditioned pumps, and also better than getting an ebay kit and having it fail later. At least with the genuine stuff you know its going to work and stay working! After all, the original seals managed 160k miles.. HI Ross. Do you have a link to the above seal kits from Breedon and Gell so members can just click the link, great thread by the way and thank you for reporting back how it went cheers Arctic __________________ Arctic Givology Learn to Give Everything is Achievable ad altiora tendo. Check out our Nano meet dates http://www.midlandsnanomeets.co.uk/ http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/index.php?thepage=howto " You do the work , we supply the expertise "

5th December 2014, 09:23	#21
T16 I really should get out more....... ZT CDTi 135, ZT260SE Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Dundee Posts: 2,877 Thanks: 10 Thanked 331 Times in 213 Posts	Definitely a 22?! Someone else on another thread said 21mm, and this is a pain in the bum to find locally, but I'm sure I have a 22. Only other this is can the main gasket that the pump mounts with be re-used, or should I purchase new? THanks for all your help, hopefully will have my car back before the end of the weekend.

6th December 2014, 14:55	#24
T16 I really should get out more....... ZT CDTi 135, ZT260SE Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Dundee Posts: 2,877 Thanks: 10 Thanked 331 Times in 213 Posts	Ok nearly done. Everyones help has been amazing, saved myself a fortune if this works! So much for diesel pumps needing to be ultra clean, corrosion around those little connector pipes and one was stuck in solid to one of the heads. Made a little mark on the end of one getting it out, but from what I can see the sealing surface is the inside tube section, so should be ok! Just one thing though. Did anyone take off that big black plate on the end where the shaft comes out? I have two big green seals left, that I imagine go inside there. Should I bother? I cant seem to get that black bit off at all.

7th December 2014, 01:52	#26
T16 I really should get out more....... ZT CDTi 135, ZT260SE Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Dundee Posts: 2,877 Thanks: 10 Thanked 331 Times in 213 Posts	Yeah thats the bit. Gave up with that in the end, it would not budge and I was not about to start levering and damaging it with a screwdriver. The service guys must have pullers or a tool to remove it properly. Pump back on and working fine thankfully. I used a genuine Bosch Service kit and another for the regulator also. Kits are the following part numbers for reference for anybody else:- Main pump seal kit : F 01M 101 454 Regulator seal kit : F 00R 0P1 466 and F 00V D38 011 All genuine Bosch, and from a really nice chap from Breedon and Gell down south. All in was about £23 or so for the lot. Certainly is a MUCH better option than messing with super expensive reconditioned pumps, and also better than getting an ebay kit and having it fail later. At least with the genuine stuff you know its going to work and stay working! After all, the original seals managed 160k miles.... Hopefully someone can add the Seal kits to a sticky, as well as the supplier, he really was very helpful and the price was great. Car starting after priming it by turning the ignition key on and letting the low pressure pump do its work, then a couple of cranks later she fired into life and was happy. There really is nothing to wear on the inside of these pumps if they are lubricated with diesel their whole lives, so the seal kit for me is the perfect way forward. Many thanks to everyone. Also anyone else doing this, turn your regulator 180deg so you can access the clip mechanism from above, the regulator plug is super tight, and mine was on facing downwards so could only gently lever the latch up when the HP Pump was coming out.