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Old 24th July 2008, 13:18   #11
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With regard to them 'not being a danger to the public' and they therefore should not be sent to jail especially as they are full, then I don't agree - Just build more jails
I think the argument is more about those that should be in Jail and are not,
but anything involving taking money from Tax/VAT or Banking and Insurance companies always get severely punished.

Kill or maim someone by car or otherwise, carry knives etc, you won't go to jail or for a very short time.
No money in that!
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Old 24th July 2008, 14:30   #12
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I think the argument is more about those that should be in Jail and are not,
but anything involving taking money from Tax/VAT or Banking and Insurance companies always get severely punished.

Kill or maim someone by car or otherwise, carry knives etc, you won't go to jail or for a very short time.
No money in that!

Exactly my point.

Fraud - Wham Bam you going away for a long time.........

Hit and Run, leave your victim for Dead, try to hide the evidence.............20 Months................

What a perfect system.
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Old 24th July 2008, 14:53   #13
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Exactly my point.

Fraud - Wham Bam you going away for a long time.........
Unless you happen to be a member of the gang of crooks laughingly known as the Government/MP's
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Old 24th July 2008, 17:51   #14
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6 years each for how much money it makes me wonder ? they might get out in 4 years & as far as i understand it their is no treaty between the 2 countrys so they will be no clawing back of funds, when they come out the could be millionaires
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Old 24th July 2008, 20:09   #15
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In answer to my own question:

From AOL News today:

Police have begun to sift through the financial assets of John and Anne Darwin to recover the money the couple defrauded in their £250,000 canoe death scam.
The back-from-the-dead canoeist, 57, and his wife, 56, hatched their audacious plot to beat bankruptcy after running into financial difficulties.
Their "determined, sustained and sophisticated" fraud ended on Wednesday at Teesside Crown Court where Mr Darwin was jailed for six years and three months and his wife for six-and-a-half years.
In total, the Darwins claimed £250,820.75 in insurance payments and pension payouts over a five-and-half-year period.
The money was used to keep the couple afloat and allow them to pay off the hefty mortgage on their large marital home and portfolio of rental properties. When all the houses were sold off, the couple laundered the money - even using their own sons Mark, 32, and Anthony, 29 - via Jersey to Panama, where the couple started a new life.
Police believe that at the time the Darwins were arrested last December, their assets were worth £500,000 - the equivalent of one million US dollars in Panama.
After Mr Darwin walked into a London police station, officers began unravelling their complicated finances in Panama.
Mrs Darwin had bought an apartment in Panama City, which was worth 56,000 US dollars (£28,000), and spent 389,789 US dollars (£198,000) on land to build a canoeing centre for tourists.
Continuing Mr Darwin's love of large cars, the couple drove around in a 45,000 US dollars (£23,000) Toyota Land Cruiser. There were also two bank accounts in Panama - containing 319 US dollars (£160) and 220 US dollars (£110) respectively - a Yorkshire Bank account with £2,300, two HSBC bank accounts holding £60 and £550, and two HSBC bank accounts in Jersey with £1,800 US dollars (£900) and 100 US dollars (£50).
Detective Inspector Andy Greenwood, who led the inquiry into the couple, said police were already starting the process of getting the money back and a worldwide order is in place freezing the couple's assets.

With regard to them 'not being a danger to the public' and they therefore should not be sent to jail especially as they are full, then I don't agree - Just build more jails
We do need more jails but we aint getting them. How many times do we hear that people who have been let out or given bail offend again, and sometimes with fatal consequences. Instead of being locked up they are free to walk the streets. So, we do need more prisons, but in the meantime stop filling them with people who could be dealt with another way and get the dangerous ones off our streets.
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