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Old 10th July 2008, 15:18   #11
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the nose weight is what sits on the tow bar at front of van .i find it is easyer to put nothing in the front locker .the more weight you put on the front .the weight will bring the back end of the car lower.a staberlizer is to stop the swaying and in thery stop it tipping over
Thanks for this. I have seen some cars with the rear of the car well down when towing... cant be good for the shocks.
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Nose wieght is the amount of wieght pressing down on the towball, the car will pull up to 1600kg but loading the caravan with most of the wieght at the front will exceed the nosewieght limit.

The stabiliser is there to lessen the amount of sideways movement of the caravan due to sidewinds and other forces.


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I think a stabiliser is a must then....
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Alan,

I would recommend joining the Caravan Club - I'm a member and you will be entitled to loads of Technical Sheets which give advice on towing, loading your caravan so it's safe, setting up and breaking camp, maintaining your caravan, security etc etc. There are loads of Club sites across the UK which are well maintained and there's a monthly magazine that's full of excellent information.

My recommendations are: speak to folks who've towed caravans and can pass on handy hints, dos and don'ts (er, like us, really!), join the Club, make sure you insure the caravan (phone around), if it's second hand, get it serviced by a specialist, buy the best security measures you can (at least a wheel clamp and a hitch lock but think about tracking devices, extra locks etc.

Go for a short journey over a weekend, to get the hang of things. If you've forgotten the important equipment (like a corkscrew) you can pop home! get your confidence before setting off on a mega-tour. I'm off to France in 2 weeks and towing there is very straight-forward!

Alan, what's the make and model of the caravan? Details of weights and nose weights are often on line. If it's new and the dealer knew what car you've got, they should not have sold you one too heavy for your towcar. If they have, Trading Standards will want to know!!!

If you need more advice, just ask!

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Hi Steve

Some sound advice here, thanks.

We are actually booked into a site but we need to belong to the camping and caravan club when we get there. So as I wasn't sure which one to join they have made my mind up. I guess they are the same. Will check out my insurance through them too.

The make and model is an Elddis Tornado XL (1991). Can't find dimensions online.... The guy I'm getting it off says it is 1,700KG. Does this seem right?

It is 2nd hand. The guy im getting it off has only had it a year.
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Here's another question....

I will be carrying the awning and other things on the roof of the car. Would the added weight on the 75 make towing safer or is is not that simple.

I take in what has been said about even distribution of weight in the caravan.
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Old 10th July 2008, 16:34   #15
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The maximum towing weight for the 75 is 1600 kg, the Caravan Club recommend that that the maximum all up weight of a braked outfit should not exceed 85% of the vehicles towing weight ie 1360 kg.
You need to have a 100 kg nose weight on the 75 and increase the rear tyre pressures to 40 psi.
Most modern caravans if the are on a AL-KO chassis and coupling will have a built in stabiliser incorporated in the coupling.
My setup with a Coachman 5 berth setup as above is perfectly stable at speeds above the uk legal limit.
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Here's another question....

I will be carrying the awning and other things on the roof of the car. Would the added weight on the 75 make towing safer or is is not that simple.

I take in what has been said about even distribution of weight in the caravan.
Hi Alan,

There is a measurement of the maximum weight of the car, caravan and their loads (can't remember the proper name for this), so storing the awning will be part of this measurement. Thinking back to my A level Physics, it would seem to make more sense carrying the awning on or in the car rather than in the 'van. You don't want the van to weigh more than the car - or it's tail wagging the dog time!

Re the even distribution of weight - it's not that even! Keep heavy items on the floor in the centre of the 'van, over the axle if possible. I transport my awning there. Doon't be tempted to place heavy items at the very front or rear of the van as you'll be more likely to snake along the road (wagging tail again!).

I've been a member of both Clubs and the C&C Club is fine. They should be able to advise you about the suitableness of the caravan. Couldn't find anything on the web about weights other than a reference to maximum weight being 1,700Kg, which doesn't sound right! Preferably, the caravan should not weigh more than 85% of the weight of the car, including loads. You can go up to 100%, but beyond that and 'you're on your own' - until the emergency services get to you!!!

Back to nose weights - the 75s and ZTs have a maximum nose weight of 100Kg (which is a lot for this type of car). Don't overload this. Put light stuff in the front external locker as this has the most effect on nose weights.

The caravan is similar in size and type to my 2001 Abbey. Newer vans have more kit which means they're heavier, so I expect you'll be fine weight-wise but do check with the C&C Club for reassurance. That's mine as well as yours!

Let us know how you get on!

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Hopefully you may find some useful information in the link below, regards Lee

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Couldn't find anything on the web about weights other than a reference to maximum weight being 1,700Kg, which doesn't sound right! Preferably, the caravan should not weigh more than 85% of the weight of the car, including loads.
If you saw that reference was a van on ebay, then it is the one I have just purchased. I'm thinking that maybe the weight is wrong as is isn't a big van.

I woule like to be sure.... I'll have another look on the net.
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Thanks Lee, loads of info here
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Hi Alan.
According to my book max towing weight for a braked trailer for 75 Diesel is 1600 kg. max nose weight is 100 kg. There is a note which says ' .. the max laden weight can be increased by 100 kg, ... and the rear axle load can be increased by 15% provided road speed is limited to a max' of 62 mph'.
As a long time caravaner I would advise stabaliser and if not fitted 'Tyreons', and join the Caravan Club.
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