Door seal change - Page 2

Simon W · 27th August 2008, 16:07

You're right - I didn't cut it and it's a perfect fit when tapped into place. Or it would be if the new seal didin't have a different design to the old one.

The new seal (without the felt finish) has a round beading under the flat section. The original seals (with the felt finish) don't have this beading and they fit the onto the trim panels better.

Also, the grey plastic kick cover - inboard of the stainless Rover one - no longer fits over the new door seal.

The lugs on the back of it aren't deep enough to reach the 3 pesky white nylon clips (even when the latter are unscrewed to raise them up). Who designs these ludicrous fixings - they're a complete joke.

Note to car manufacturers: Use a damned screw!

Reebs · 27th August 2008, 17:44

Simon, I can't comment on your slightly different door rubber, but for what it's worth, when I replaced mine with a new original (felt) type, I found I HAD to put in new Kick Plate Clips as a matter of course.

Those pesky clips are designed to fit once and once only.
You may find that getting some new ones will solve your problem.

Here are some I found for sale on fleabay at the moment

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ROVER-75-KICKP...d=p3286.c0.m14

Simon W · 28th August 2008, 13:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reebs

Simon, I can't comment on your slightly different door rubber, but for what it's worth, when I replaced mine with a new original (felt) type, I found I HAD to put in new Kick Plate Clips as a matter of course.

Those pesky clips are designed to fit once and once only.
You may find that getting some new ones will solve your problem.

Here are some I found for sale on fleabay at the moment

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ROVER-75-KICKP...d=p3286.c0.m14

Thanks Reebs

doublekite · 8th May 2009, 22:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reebs

Simon, I can't comment on your slightly different door rubber, but for what it's worth, when I replaced mine with a new original (felt) type, I found I HAD to put in new Kick Plate Clips as a matter of course.

Those pesky clips are designed to fit once and once only.
You may find that getting some new ones will solve your problem.

Here are some I found for sale on fleabay at the moment

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ROVER-75-KICKP...d=p3286.c0.m14

Where can I buy a new door rubber for the door frame (not door) as above please. Felt type preferred but new style would do. Thanks in advance.

Reebs · 8th May 2009, 22:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by doublekite

Where can I buy a new door rubber for the door frame (not door) as above please. Felt type preferred but new style would do. Thanks in advance.

The part number for the fabric lined one is CFE102740 SEAL-FRONT DOOR BODY MOUNTED SECONDARY, £27.49 and is still available from the following Xpart dealers:

F.J. Keen & Son Ltd London x1
QuickCo Manchester Stretford x3
Owen T Kernahan (Witney) Ltd x1
Taggarts Motor Group Motherwell (Scotland) x2
County Garage (Bodmin) Ltd x1
County Garage (Barnstaple) Ltd x1
Marshall Parts Centre Peterborough x1
Sandicliffe Motor Group Ltd Leicester x1

11 left in the country.

The part number for the all rubber one is CFE102741 Seal-front door-Body Mounted-secondary, and costs £60.00. Available from the following Xpart dealers:

Xpart Distribution Centre via your nearest MG Rover Wholesaler x4
F.J. Keen & Son Ltd London x1
Marshall Rover Cambridge x1
Trininty Motors of Hinckley x1
Rowes Basingstoke x1
Harwoods of Sussex - Chichester x1
Lloyd Motors Carlisle x1
Charles Hurst Vauxhall Balmoral (Northern Ireland) x1
Premier Motors (Romford) Ltd x1
Evans Halshaw Leeds x1
Rimmer Brothers Ltd Lincoln x1
Allen Ford Coventry x1
QuickCo - Borehamwood x1
Taggarts Motor Group Motherwell (Scotland) x1
Pentagon Group Sheffield x1
K & C Garages Churchtown (Ireland) x1

This is the door seal for the drivers side inner, which attaches to the car itself. 19 left in the country as we speak.

W953 BJX · 8th May 2009, 22:59

I am breaking my 75 I not long ago fitted a new door seal to the driversside at great expense! So that's up for grabs if anyone is interested, its been on the car for a year and the car hasnt moved for 7 months so its still as new really, its the all rubber type, I also have the original felt type for the two rear doors but not got one for front nearside, I bodge repaired that one as my local place didnt have another one in stock at the time

JohnDotCom · 8th May 2009, 23:06

Can you please state price required to comply with club rules.
Thanks.
Posting up in the "For Sale" forum will get better coverage for you to.

doublekite · 12th May 2009, 10:27

I have checked Rimmer Bros, they onmly have the rubber ones for an eye watering £68.21.

Part Number CFE102741
Description SEAL-FRONT DOOR SECONDARY
Retail Price £68.21 inc. VAT (£59.31 exc. VAT)

I prefer the felt one as original, do any of the listed suppliers do mail order?

doublekite · 22nd May 2009, 12:58

[QUOTE=Reebs;327128]The part number for the fabric lined one is CFE102740 SEAL-FRONT DOOR BODY MOUNTED SECONDARY, £27.49 and is still available from the following Xpart dealers:

F.J. Keen & Son Ltd London x1
QuickCo Manchester Stretford x3
Owen T Kernahan (Witney) Ltd x1
Taggarts Motor Group Motherwell (Scotland) x2
County Garage (Bodmin) Ltd x1
County Garage (Barnstaple) Ltd x1
Marshall Parts Centre Peterborough x1
Sandicliffe Motor Group Ltd Leicester x1

QUOTE]

Ordered and received the one from Sandicliffe, but it has no felt on it. The bag (labelled with correct number) had been opened and I am thinking a swap may have been done at some time. Before I complain, can someone double check the felt one is numbered CFE102740? Many thanks.

Reebs · 22nd May 2009, 13:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by doublekite

.... Before I complain, can someone double check the felt one is numbered CFE102740? Many thanks.

Tim,

I've just spoken to the parts department at County Garage Bodmin, and they have physically got the door rubber CFE102740 in front of them and can confirm it is the fabric version.

They have just the one left, but are willing to post it out once they've found out how much the carrage would be.

If your supplier can't furnish you with a replacement correct one, I'd get a refund and buy from County Garages.

http://www.thepart.com/en/search/det...ml?id=40237842

BTW according to the EPC the felt door rubber was for cars up until VIN number 304111 for saloons, and 305580 for tourers, after that it was the later part number CFE102741

Hope that helps

27th August 2008, 16:07	#11
Simon W This is my second home Rover 75 2.0 Litre Club Saloon Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: S Posts: 3,280 Thanks: 38 Thanked 50 Times in 47 Posts	You're right - I didn't cut it and it's a perfect fit when tapped into place. Or it would be if the new seal didin't have a different design to the old one. The new seal (without the felt finish) has a round beading under the flat section. The original seals (with the felt finish) don't have this beading and they fit the onto the trim panels better. Also, the grey plastic kick cover - inboard of the stainless Rover one - no longer fits over the new door seal. The lugs on the back of it aren't deep enough to reach the 3 pesky white nylon clips (even when the latter are unscrewed to raise them up). Who designs these ludicrous fixings - they're a complete joke. Note to car manufacturers: Use a damned screw! Last edited by Simon W; 27th August 2008 at 16:54..

27th August 2008, 17:44	#12
Reebs Owners Club Director Rover 75 Conn SE V6 / MG ZT 260 SE V8 / MG ZT 180 SE V6 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Southampton Posts: 20,941 Thanks: 645 Thanked 6,851 Times in 2,537 Posts	Simon, I can't comment on your slightly different door rubber, but for what it's worth, when I replaced mine with a new original (felt) type, I found I HAD to put in new Kick Plate Clips as a matter of course. Those pesky clips are designed to fit once and once only. You may find that getting some new ones will solve your problem. Here are some I found for sale on fleabay at the moment http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ROVER-75-KICKP...d=p3286.c0.m14 __________________ Check your trim here . Check your spec here Check your colour here . Check Project Drive here Check your original price here

8th May 2009, 22:59	#16
W953 BJX Loves to post 1953 and 1955 series 1 landrovers, two series 3 landrovers, range rover, rover 75 saloon Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Leicestershire Posts: 367 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I am breaking my 75 I not long ago fitted a new door seal to the driversside at great expense! So that's up for grabs if anyone is interested, its been on the car for a year and the car hasnt moved for 7 months so its still as new really, its the all rubber type, I also have the original felt type for the two rear doors but not got one for front nearside, I bodge repaired that one as my local place didnt have another one in stock at the time

8th May 2009, 23:06	#17
JohnDotCom * Rover 75 FaceLift Tourer CDTi 170BHP Auto ConnSE 2005 Model Starlight Silver Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Abergele Posts: 28,735 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Can you please state price required to comply with club rules. Thanks. Posting up in the "For Sale" forum will get better coverage for you to.

12th May 2009, 10:27	#18
doublekite My other car is a bus 2005 Jaguar S Type 2.7D automatic and 2007 Jaguar S Type XS 2.7D automatic Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Norwich Posts: 430 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have checked Rimmer Bros, they onmly have the rubber ones for an eye watering £68.21. Part Number CFE102741 Description SEAL-FRONT DOOR SECONDARY Retail Price £68.21 inc. VAT (£59.31 exc. VAT) I prefer the felt one as original, do any of the listed suppliers do mail order?

22nd May 2009, 12:58	#19
doublekite My other car is a bus 2005 Jaguar S Type 2.7D automatic and 2007 Jaguar S Type XS 2.7D automatic Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Norwich Posts: 430 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	[QUOTE=Reebs;327128]The part number for the fabric lined one is CFE102740 SEAL-FRONT DOOR BODY MOUNTED SECONDARY, £27.49 and is still available from the following Xpart dealers: F.J. Keen & Son Ltd London x1 QuickCo Manchester Stretford x3 Owen T Kernahan (Witney) Ltd x1 Taggarts Motor Group Motherwell (Scotland) x2 County Garage (Bodmin) Ltd x1 County Garage (Barnstaple) Ltd x1 Marshall Parts Centre Peterborough x1 Sandicliffe Motor Group Ltd Leicester x1 QUOTE] Ordered and received the one from Sandicliffe, but it has no felt on it. The bag (labelled with correct number) had been opened and I am thinking a swap may have been done at some time. Before I complain, can someone double check the felt one is numbered CFE102740? Many thanks.