Call for Welsh Dragon on Union Flag.

JohnDotCom · 27th November 2007, 08:27

In a Commons debate, Wrexham's Labour MP Ian Lucas said the Welsh Dragon should be added to the Union Jacks Red, White and Blue pattern.

The Union Jack currently only represents the other three UK nations and the Welsh people have asked for it to be added. The Welsh Assembly have said the Union Flag should not be flown in Wales as the Welsh are not on it.

In response the Reply came that the Plan would be very Unpopular with the citizens of the UK and was an entirely "Eccentric" idea.

The Scottish response was positive but told the Debate it will be Irrelevant as with their full Independence soon or otherwise they will be coming off the Union Flag.

Could I ask would people find it unpopular to have one of the Countries of the UK represented on the Union Flag?

Tom Collins · 27th November 2007, 09:29

I can understand why the Welsh must be upset by being left off the Union Flag, but whether it's right or wrong to add the dragon, I think it's been around in it's present form for too long for it to ever happen.
Overnight all flags would be redundant.
Most of all though, we would all have to change the badges on our cars.

JohnDotCom · 27th November 2007, 09:31

I've got load of Welsh Dragon stickers that would fit on there.

windrush · 27th November 2007, 09:39

This is just the begining of thew break up of the UK thanks to Tony Liar

JohnFol · 27th November 2007, 10:12

apparently Wales had already joined the union before 1606 when the first union flag was established (st George cross)

If the Welsh want recognition on the flag, then we need to widen the Seven river and charge a toll in both directions!

briantilley · 27th November 2007, 10:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnFol

apparently Wales had already joined the union before 1606 when the first union flag was established (st George cross)

That's how I understand it, too. Although I'd love more obvious recognition for our Principality on the Union Flag, it is the case that the St. George's Cross represents England and Wales together.

Perhaps the English should get their own flag too...

JohnFol · 27th November 2007, 10:29

A duke rules over a dukedom
A Prince rules over a principality
A King rules over a kingdom

Doesn't George Bush rule over a country?

pizza john · 27th November 2007, 10:35

There's already too much division in my view.

Rather than break into many tiny satellites, I'd rather see the European Union develop further.

JohnDotCom · 27th November 2007, 12:59

As The Welsh Assembly is becoming more devolved and now has its own Law making Capability and eventually will be a Government and will go Independent Eventually, just like Scotland.

Good Laws Introduced that are different Here in Wales already include but not only:

Free Transport anywhere in Wales or where journey starts or Finishes in Wales for anyone over 60 or Registered disabled.

No Prescription Charges for anything for anybody.

University Fees greatly Cheaper or Large Grants available to cover.

Free House insulation Loft and Walls for over 60's and anyone earning less than the Country's national Average.

Free use of Swimming pools and leisure facilities (in council run centres) for up to 16's and over 60's.

With the new Transfer of Powers just given, mean New Laws and Traffic regulations, Health, Education etc can now be sorted here and set here without London Interfering!.

rover · 27th November 2007, 14:10

Wrexham must be absolute Utopia if the most important issue for its constituents is the design of the Union flag.Given the opportunity to speak in the House its M.P.could surely have found a subject with more relevance to the electorate.

27th November 2007, 08:27	#1
JohnDotCom * Rover 75 FaceLift Tourer CDTi 170BHP Auto ConnSE 2005 Model Starlight Silver Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Abergele Posts: 28,735 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Call for Welsh Dragon on Union Flag. In a Commons debate, Wrexham's Labour MP Ian Lucas said the Welsh Dragon should be added to the Union Jacks Red, White and Blue pattern. The Union Jack currently only represents the other three UK nations and the Welsh people have asked for it to be added. The Welsh Assembly have said the Union Flag should not be flown in Wales as the Welsh are not on it. In response the Reply came that the Plan would be very Unpopular with the citizens of the UK and was an entirely "Eccentric" idea. The Scottish response was positive but told the Debate it will be Irrelevant as with their full Independence soon or otherwise they will be coming off the Union Flag. Could I ask would people find it unpopular to have one of the Countries of the UK represented on the Union Flag?

27th November 2007, 09:29	#2
Tom Collins Posted a thing or two Mondeo 2.0 cdti Ghia Auto Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Leicester Posts: 1,731 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I can understand why the Welsh must be upset by being left off the Union Flag, but whether it's right or wrong to add the dragon, I think it's been around in it's present form for too long for it to ever happen. Overnight all flags would be redundant. Most of all though, we would all have to change the badges on our cars. __________________ In vino veritas [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Does Magna Carta mean nothing to you? Did she die in vain?

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pizza john Regular poster Rover 75 Tourer Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Surrey Posts: 63 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	There's already too much division in my view. Rather than break into many tiny satellites, I'd rather see the European Union develop further. Last edited by pizza john; 27th November 2007 at 16:49..

27th November 2007, 12:59	#9
JohnDotCom * Rover 75 FaceLift Tourer CDTi 170BHP Auto ConnSE 2005 Model Starlight Silver Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Abergele Posts: 28,735 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	As The Welsh Assembly is becoming more devolved and now has its own Law making Capability and eventually will be a Government and will go Independent Eventually, just like Scotland. Good Laws Introduced that are different Here in Wales already include but not only: Free Transport anywhere in Wales or where journey starts or Finishes in Wales for anyone over 60 or Registered disabled. No Prescription Charges for anything for anybody. University Fees greatly Cheaper or Large Grants available to cover. Free House insulation Loft and Walls for over 60's and anyone earning less than the Country's national Average. Free use of Swimming pools and leisure facilities (in council run centres) for up to 16's and over 60's. With the new Transfer of Powers just given, mean New Laws and Traffic regulations, Health, Education etc can now be sorted here and set here without London Interfering!. Last edited by JohnDotCom; 27th November 2007 at 13:01..

27th November 2007, 09:31	#3
JohnDotCom * Rover 75 FaceLift Tourer CDTi 170BHP Auto ConnSE 2005 Model Starlight Silver Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Abergele Posts: 28,735 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	I've got load of Welsh Dragon stickers that would fit on there.

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JohnFol Gets stuck in 75 Conn SE - XVWY* Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Reading Posts: 564 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	apparently Wales had already joined the union before 1606 when the first union flag was established (st George cross) If the Welsh want recognition on the flag, then we need to widen the Seven river and charge a toll in both directions!

27th November 2007, 10:29	#7
JohnFol Gets stuck in 75 Conn SE - XVWY* Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Reading Posts: 564 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	A duke rules over a dukedom A Prince rules over a principality A King rules over a kingdom Doesn't George Bush rule over a country?

27th November 2007, 14:10	#10
rover Loves to post Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Staffs/Derbyshire Border Posts: 285 Thanks: 19 Thanked 29 Times in 14 Posts	Wrexham must be absolute Utopia if the most important issue for its constituents is the design of the Union flag.Given the opportunity to speak in the House its M.P.could surely have found a subject with more relevance to the electorate.