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Old 3rd September 2018, 19:00   #1
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Hello,

Anybody know anything about washing machines?

I have an 12 year old zanussi zwd 16892w that makes a whining noise when on rinses. It almost sounds like the dryer is switching on. Only happens on rinses, there is no grinding or banging.

My guess is drain pump but wouldn't mind a second opinion!

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Old 3rd September 2018, 20:06   #2
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I doubt there will be more than one drain pump, so the noise would appear when ever it needed to drain, like at the end of the wash cycle, the rinse cycles and during the spins.



Could it be something trapped between the drum and the outer casing?



Just for information - Ours packed in last week, complaining it couldn't drain/pump out. A bra wire had found its way out of the drum, part way through the filter and into the drainage pump impeller stopping it pumping out.
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I have to say, I've never had much to do with bras but I didn't know they had wire in them.
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Old 3rd September 2018, 21:42   #4
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Personally after 12 years I would not bother trying to fix it, it owes you nothing and when you see what you can buy a new one for these days anything you spend on your old un will mean you feel you need to carry on.
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Personally after 12 years I would not bother trying to fix it, it owes you nothing and when you see what you can buy a new one for these days anything you spend on your old un will mean you feel you need to carry on.
Lol! But I own a 75

I can pick up an OEM pump for under £20 and fitting doesn't look too hard. Everything else is working OK. So in theory for a bit of elbow grease and £20 I get a working machine.

Harry, I'm fairly certain there is nothing catching but I'll strip it down and have a look. I'm wondering if maybe the drain tube is clogged with gunge. The water is being removed from the machine but not with the force it was previously. The evacuation pipe used to move with the force of the water but that doesn't seem to be happening now.
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Chances are if you think its a partial blockage the culprit will have been your conditioner because they make it to thick . Leave out the clothes and put it on its hottest and longest setting . That was the advice i had from a Hotpoint technition .
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Personally after 12 years I would not bother trying to fix it, it owes you nothing and when you see what you can buy a new one for these days anything you spend on your old un will mean you feel you need to carry on.

I have fixed our present washer drier up around six times since we bought it new. The first time at just over the 12 months old, when it would have cost around £200 to repair, with a PCB design issue. It cost me the grand sum of 20p to fix it and many others have fixed the same machine, using my own fix.


The drier system over heats and sometimes trips the safety stat., which is designed to be replaced rather than reset, at a parts cost of £20 plus labour maybe £100 on top. I devised a way to reset it and I can now reset it in just a few minutes.



The pump has been jammed with bra wires twice (yes, twice ) and other items once. It takes me around an hour to pull the machine out, raise it up in the air onto crates, drain it down, to get to the pump and filter.


I never chuck anything which is faulty out, until I have had a good look at repairing it. My time is free of cost to me, so just parts cost if any are needed and it is an enjoyable learning experience fixing anything.


When eventually it shows some serious wear and tear, we will buy a new one, but at the moment it seems good as when it was bought new.
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I have fixed our present washer drier up around six times since we bought it new. The first time at just over the 12 months old, when it would have cost around £200 to repair, with a PCB design issue. It cost me the grand sum of 20p to fix it and many others have fixed the same machine, using my own fix.


The drier system over heats and sometimes trips the safety stat., which is designed to be replaced rather than reset, at a parts cost of £20 plus labour maybe £100 on top. I devised a way to reset it and I can now reset it in just a few minutes.



The pump has been jammed with bra wires twice (yes, twice ) and other items once. It takes me around an hour to pull the machine out, raise it up in the air onto crates, drain it down, to get to the pump and filter.


I never chuck anything which is faulty out, until I have had a good look at repairing it. My time is free of cost to me, so just parts cost if any are needed and it is an enjoyable learning experience fixing anything.


When eventually it shows some serious wear and tear, we will buy a new one, but at the moment it seems good as when it was bought new.
i am with you harry on this one .
our old washer dryer died on us.that just needed a new pump obtained quite cheaply online which i fitted.just a couple of hose clips a plug and three screws.this lasted a couple of years before the inlet solenoid valves went so fitted a new set of them.this gave the machine several extra years of life for just a bit of time and effort.after ten years of sterling service the main pcb went pcb repairs are beyond me.and as you pointed out horrendous price so it this point i bought new machine.
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Right then! Stripped the machine down this morning, cleaned out all the tubes, gave the pumps a once over and found nothing untoward.

Fitted back together and fired the machine up. The pumps are working perfectly. The problem appears to be the belt driven air blower for the dryer part of the machine.

I have to confess I have never, ever used it before so I have no idea what it should sound like.

Checked for bearing play in the fan housing and couldn't feel any at all. It maybe that the drying aspect is quite whiney and loud

However, it doesn't explain why this kicks in for approx 2 minutes when the rinses start. I've drawn a blank on web searches. I might just have to live with it until it finally dies.
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I have fixed our present washer drier up around six times since we bought it new. The first time at just over the 12 months old, when it would have cost around £200 to repair, with a PCB design issue. It cost me the grand sum of 20p to fix it and many others have fixed the same machine, using my own fix.


The drier system over heats and sometimes trips the safety stat., which is designed to be replaced rather than reset, at a parts cost of £20 plus labour maybe £100 on top. I devised a way to reset it and I can now reset it in just a few minutes.



The pump has been jammed with bra wires twice (yes, twice ) and other items once. It takes me around an hour to pull the machine out, raise it up in the air onto crates, drain it down, to get to the pump and filter.


I never chuck anything which is faulty out, until I have had a good look at repairing it. My time is free of cost to me, so just parts cost if any are needed and it is an enjoyable learning experience fixing anything.


When eventually it shows some serious wear and tear, we will buy a new one, but at the moment it seems good as when it was bought new.
The Stat usually trips because of a partial blockage of the condenser tube, does it on mine from time to time.

Bit of a Pita but removing the conderser tube and removing the blockage usually does the trick until the next time

What model is yours Harry?

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