Silicone intercooler pipe for diesels. - Page 30

lathbury · 29th August 2014, 09:21

Many thanks Jules, I will attempt this at the weekend. John.

Jules · 29th August 2014, 09:38

Don't forget folks if the elbow doesn't want to budge it may be due to a grub screw being added between the 2 seals !!
(on some where the anchorage fittings are loose, Steve Arctic and myself have adopted the above screw mod to vastly strengthen the integrity of the joint)

The grub screw mod is highly recommend for the 160 cars amongst us

The single 8mm bolt holding the elbow in just isn't up to the job (at 90 deg to the forces applied to it by the turbo pressure!!)
This crazy design relies on the small anchorage points on the intercooler & radiator to hold the elbow in place.

If the car has suffered a ground strike (vast majority have over sleeping policemen etc!) then the security of the elbow is compromised without the reinforcement mod as the intercooler brackets get cracked.

EastPete · 29th August 2014, 10:27

I am about to do my intercooler hose - is there a thread somewhere on adding the 'grub screw' mod to stop the elbow coming off ?

(I have seen the thread on replacing the hose without taking half the front of the car apart, but no mention of the 'grub screw', where you put it and how).

Thanks

Pete

John Armstrong · 29th August 2014, 11:33

Received a one piece (but will cut using old as a patters) today. Obviously I'll clean the EGR valve but surely, to do a proper job, one should clean the connecting Inlet manifold whic I propose to do. Anyway, has anyone done this yet? If so, can they point out any trip wires or indeed does one need any seals.
A how to would be great but I've done a search without any success
Cheers
John

lathbury · 29th August 2014, 13:28

I received mine this morning, when I offered it up against the one on the car it looks too short and the angles look different, will it be okay?.

Jules · 29th August 2014, 18:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by EastPete

I am about to do my intercooler hose - is there a thread somewhere on adding the 'grub screw' mod to stop the elbow coming off ?

(I have seen the thread on replacing the hose without taking half the front of the car apart, but no mention of the 'grub screw', where you put it and how).

Thanks

Pete

Arctic has a good howto on that

Quote:

Originally Posted by lathbury

I received mine this morning, when I offered it up against the one on the car it looks too short and the angles look different, will it be okay?.

The angles will be correct on the new one.
The angles on the old one will be way out due to the swelling

whitevanman · 29th August 2014, 18:56

Took me no more than 40mins to fit mine along with an EGR bypass and that included cleaning the inlet manifold a bit, Found the thick ring (looks like a rubber band) on the inlet/egr joint was letting by so removed it put a thin circle of oring material behind it and put the original on top. Defo more torque and has a willingness to rev more although still non too happy higher up but then the valve was stuck in a half & half position..Just a blowing exhaust (I'll get them to gut the cat while under there) and the 160 to get done, Can't wait

John Armstrong · 31st August 2014, 09:48

In the absence of a response, I will go forward most carefully hopefully avoiding any trip wires. Will advise outcome.
John

wullie480 · 31st August 2014, 09:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Armstrong

In the absence of a response, I will go forward most carefully hopefully avoiding any trip wires. Will advise outcome.
John

Hi John,

Just picking up on your post.
I did consider doing a how to but to be honest thought it was an easy job so I didn't bother.
Just be careful cutting it and watch those fingers can I ask why didn't you order a 2 piece hose?

It's just a case of removing the jubilee clips and fitting the new one the bottom jubilee might be awkward depending on where its situated so access could be awkward.

lathbury · 31st August 2014, 10:24

I will be fitting mine this afternoon, I have followed the how-to and it seems the bottom of the pipe is still fitted to the elbow, is that right?. The bottom clip screw is at a sharp angle so making it difficult to unscrew, can I just pull the elbow up with the pipe attached?. John.

29th August 2014, 09:38	#292
Jules This is my second home ZT 260 SE Twilight and 10 other 75 ZT's :O Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Conwy NORTH WALES Posts: 11,094 Thanks: 512 Thanked 1,116 Times in 763 Posts	Don't forget folks if the elbow doesn't want to budge it may be due to a grub screw being added between the 2 seals !! (on some where the anchorage fittings are loose, Steve Arctic and myself have adopted the above screw mod to vastly strengthen the integrity of the joint) The grub screw mod is highly recommend for the 160 cars amongst us The single 8mm bolt holding the elbow in just isn't up to the job (at 90 deg to the forces applied to it by the turbo pressure!!) This crazy design relies on the small anchorage points on the intercooler & radiator to hold the elbow in place. If the car has suffered a ground strike (vast majority have over sleeping policemen etc!) then the security of the elbow is compromised without the reinforcement mod as the intercooler brackets get cracked. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Newbies do now!! 1. Plenum drains..all 3 or 4 year dependent 2. Cooling fan..All speeds functioning 3. Bonnet cable divider block

29th August 2014, 11:33	#294
John Armstrong Avid contributor Rover 75 Diesel Saloon Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Doncaster Posts: 231 Thanks: 0 Thanked 31 Times in 28 Posts	Intake manifold Received a one piece (but will cut using old as a patters) today. Obviously I'll clean the EGR valve but surely, to do a proper job, one should clean the connecting Inlet manifold whic I propose to do. Anyway, has anyone done this yet? If so, can they point out any trip wires or indeed does one need any seals. A how to would be great but I've done a search without any success Cheers John

29th August 2014, 18:56	#297
whitevanman This is my second home 2001 Connie SE CDT, 2002 2.0Petrol Laguna SportHatch Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Althorne Posts: 3,122 Thanks: 319 Thanked 441 Times in 318 Posts	Took me no more than 40mins to fit mine along with an EGR bypass and that included cleaning the inlet manifold a bit, Found the thick ring (looks like a rubber band) on the inlet/egr joint was letting by so removed it put a thin circle of oring material behind it and put the original on top. Defo more torque and has a willingness to rev more although still non too happy higher up but then the valve was stuck in a half & half position..Just a blowing exhaust (I'll get them to gut the cat while under there) and the 160 to get done, Can't wait __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Today the 23rd of April I will mostly be: Kids, bikes, dog, kids, bikes, dog...Seems to be a pattern forming here Car: Connie SE CDT Manual, Mods: O-Rings, Silicon intercooler hose, Stainless EGR Bypass, BMW PCV Mod, 160 Upgrade, DD Unit, Projector Headlights, Powerflex Bottom Mount, Remote Clutch reservoir, SS Compensator; Inline Stat To Come: cat gut (when replacing iffy section). Meteors after refurb..

29th August 2014, 09:21	#291
lathbury Posted a thing or two 75 Conn S.E. Cdt. Join Date: May 2007 Location: Merseyside Posts: 1,803 Thanks: 1,873 Thanked 52 Times in 49 Posts	Many thanks Jules, I will attempt this at the weekend. John.

29th August 2014, 10:27	#293
EastPete Posted a thing or two Rover 75 CDTi Classic saloon, MGB GT, Skoda Yeti Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ramsey, Cambs Posts: 1,874 Thanks: 626 Thanked 635 Times in 430 Posts	I am about to do my intercooler hose - is there a thread somewhere on adding the 'grub screw' mod to stop the elbow coming off ? (I have seen the thread on replacing the hose without taking half the front of the car apart, but no mention of the 'grub screw', where you put it and how). Thanks Pete

29th August 2014, 13:28	#295
lathbury Posted a thing or two 75 Conn S.E. Cdt. Join Date: May 2007 Location: Merseyside Posts: 1,803 Thanks: 1,873 Thanked 52 Times in 49 Posts	I received mine this morning, when I offered it up against the one on the car it looks too short and the angles look different, will it be okay?.

31st August 2014, 09:48	#298
John Armstrong Avid contributor Rover 75 Diesel Saloon Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Doncaster Posts: 231 Thanks: 0 Thanked 31 Times in 28 Posts	In the absence of a response, I will go forward most carefully hopefully avoiding any trip wires. Will advise outcome. John

31st August 2014, 10:24	#300
lathbury Posted a thing or two 75 Conn S.E. Cdt. Join Date: May 2007 Location: Merseyside Posts: 1,803 Thanks: 1,873 Thanked 52 Times in 49 Posts	I will be fitting mine this afternoon, I have followed the how-to and it seems the bottom of the pipe is still fitted to the elbow, is that right?. The bottom clip screw is at a sharp angle so making it difficult to unscrew, can I just pull the elbow up with the pipe attached?. John.