The Flying Scotsman. - Page 2

FLYER · 8th January 2016, 13:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by StewartIngram

Pedant mode 1:
It is painted in black at the moment as an undercoat: when it was close to the finish of its restoration 2/3 years ago this was to be the wartime black livery and numbering whilst running in took place. Sadly it needed more work; it retains this black again whilst running in. It will return in green, but BR dark green livery as 60103. This is NOT original green, it has carried Great Northen Railway green when new as an A1 class loco, through LNER apple green and rebuild to an A3, then BR dark green in the 1950s. (Also various other temporary schemes). Upon withdrawal from normal revenue earning service in 1963(?) it was bought privately by Alan Pegler. He had it restored to a single chimney, added a corridor tender like it had new, (eventually he made that 2) and it was repainted LNER green again as 4472. It gave many years service in preservation, ultimately for operating reasons regaining its double chimney and German type smoke deflectors from the late 1950s BR era. 10 years ago it was bought by the National Railway Museum at York and the present rebuild started.
Pedant mode 2:
The smoke deflectors and double chimney, along with a single non-corridor tender, represent the last years of BR service. However as it continued in service in preservation, techically the mix and match condition it is in now (or shortly will be) in ARE historically correct as it has been there before!
Good to see the old girl back in steam.

Stewart

blimey an enthusiast.....

Rev Jules · 8th January 2016, 13:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by StewartIngram

Pedant mode 1:
It is painted in black at the moment as an undercoat: when it was close to the finish of its restoration 2/3 years ago this was to be the wartime black livery and numbering whilst running in took place. Sadly it needed more work; it retains this black again whilst running in. It will return in green, but BR dark green livery as 60103. This is NOT original green, it has carried Great Northen Railway green when new as an A1 class loco, through LNER apple green and rebuild to an A3, then BR dark green in the 1950s. (Also various other temporary schemes). Upon withdrawal from normal revenue earning service in 1963(?) it was bought privately by Alan Pegler. He had it restored to a single chimney, added a corridor tender like it had new, (eventually he made that 2) and it was repainted LNER green again as 4472. It gave many years service in preservation, ultimately for operating reasons regaining its double chimney and German type smoke deflectors from the late 1950s BR era. 10 years ago it was bought by the National Railway Museum at York and the present rebuild started.

Pedant mode 2:
The smoke deflectors and double chimney, along with a single non-corridor tender, represent the last years of BR service. However as it continued in service in preservation, techically the mix and match condition it is in now (or shortly will be) in ARE historically correct as it has been there before!
Good to see the old girl back in steam.

Stewart

Will it run with the second tender ???

Rev Jules

planenut · 8th January 2016, 15:05

Well I'm not an expert but I would have thought that with the enthusiasm about, they would have focused on the Flying Scotsman and not the lead engine, and why was that there? or was the reborn beastie not "driving". In this video the Flying Scotsman appears to have it's authentic paint scheme already applied.

Leyland Worldmaster · 8th January 2016, 15:36

Glad to hear it! Just seen the news! Looks impressive; powerful; I bet it handles well!

mininuts · 8th January 2016, 15:50

Last time I saw the Flying Scotsman was about 10 or 11 years ago at Ashbourne country show. They had transported the loco on a low loader to the show ground where, a length of track had been laid so the Scotsman could be shown as a static display.
What was unusual was the fact that the show ground was at least 10 miles from the nearest operating railway line, it was quite odd to see such a monster perched in a field in the middle of nowhere

I think it was owned by a Dr Marchington at the time, who lived in the next village to ours, and it was a non runner. I seem to remember he sold it for 3 million as a non runner

Good to see it back in action.

Woof25 · 8th January 2016, 16:04

No 4472 was built in Doncaster for the LNER and was on the London Edinburgh designed by Nigel Gresley a innovative engineer.
He also designed Mallard which still holds the world steam record at 125.88 mph. If Gresley was with us today he would be designing cutting ege engines n ot harking back to past achievements

planenut · 8th January 2016, 16:09

Herbert Nigel Gresley, knighted in 1936.

planenut · 8th January 2016, 16:32

I notice they are using some old video. Why has the number changed?

Rev Jules · 8th January 2016, 16:44

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Originally Posted by Woof25

No 4472 was built in Doncaster for the LNER and was on the London Edinburgh designed by Nigel Greeley a innovative engineer.
He also designed Mallard which still holds the world steam record at 125.88 mph. If Greeley was with us to

Hi Mike, it is Nigel Gresley.

Jules

FLYER · 8th January 2016, 16:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rev Jules

Hi Mike, it is Nigel Gresley.

Jules

Pedant..........

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planenut Regional Secretary Rover 1.8T Tourer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Heathrow Posts: 6,955 Thanks: 1,551 Thanked 2,036 Times in 1,264 Posts	Well I'm not an expert but I would have thought that with the enthusiasm about, they would have focused on the Flying Scotsman and not the lead engine, and why was that there? or was the reborn beastie not "driving". In this video the Flying Scotsman appears to have it's authentic paint scheme already applied.

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planenut Regional Secretary Rover 1.8T Tourer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Heathrow Posts: 6,955 Thanks: 1,551 Thanked 2,036 Times in 1,264 Posts	Herbert Nigel Gresley, knighted in 1936.

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planenut Regional Secretary Rover 1.8T Tourer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Heathrow Posts: 6,955 Thanks: 1,551 Thanked 2,036 Times in 1,264 Posts	I notice they are using some old video. Why has the number changed?