Oh dear, apparently we are in recession (again) - Page 3

Jules · 30th April 2012, 14:58

Mmm yes and I wonder how many hungry kids have got Sky TV at home!!

Sometimes it's all about priorities.
Many moons ago as a Tv engineer I was amazed how very poor families had no carpets
Etc but had the latest SKY equipment and the top most expensive monthly package which I could never afford!

greendriver · 30th April 2012, 15:02

3 words...

SKY
NIKE
XBOX

Any of these and you're not poor. Discuss.

VVC-Geeza · 30th April 2012, 15:13

Nobody can deny that that is true in some cases,however the impression that I got from many of the callers to that programme was that there is widespread hardship.As someone who has been self employed for 13 years I have to say the last 3-4 have been very much quieter.The economy is on it's knees and ordinary working folk are only spending on necessities,not their little luxuries.

lady zed · 30th April 2012, 16:08

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Originally Posted by VVC-Geeza

I was listening to a phone in on 5 Live on Friday evening and apparently schools across the country are now having to provide breakfast bars for some pupils as they were arriving at school hungry due to the fact that some parents are no longer able to afford food for a breakfast.What have things come to!

I don't believe this for a second. for the past 3/4 years i've been working 20 hours a week, my husband hasn't been working. due to my huge (ha ha) 20 hour a week salary he's not entitled to jsa, the only help we get are tax credits. We don't get any other benefit including council tax. My children eat very well. The difference is I don't drink, smoke, use drugs, we don't holiday abroad, we don't have multiple games consoles or a flat screen 50" TV. As I've said before my only extravaganz is my car. If children aren't eating it's cos the parents are being frivolous with money or spending their benefit on fags and booze.

Tim · 30th April 2012, 16:13

You can't deny times are harder but was listening to the radio about talking ourselves into a deeper recession, both media and public are to blame. We need to encourage the economy not depress it.

I'm not going to talk about Politicians. Fire them all and bring in expert managers. [Blood beginning to boil]

stevemac · 30th April 2012, 16:30

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Originally Posted by Tim

You can't deny times are harder but was listening to the radio about talking ourselves into a deeper recession, both media and public are to blame. We need to encourage the economy not depress it.

I'm not going to talk about Politicians. Fire them all and bring in expert managers. [Blood beginning to boil]

The problem is that we only get the politicians we deserve. No "Captain of Industry" is ever going to become a politican because the press and public scrutinise everything they do and say. The pay is also low. The PM gets a salary of £142k, Cabinet Ministers get £134k and MP's get £65K. This is for running a country! Pathetic really, but if we paid the sort of money to get "expert managers" there would be a public outcry. Its never going to happen. IMHO

Tim · 30th April 2012, 17:12

You are not wrong, I just struggle with the boundless ineptitude.

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Originally Posted by stevemac

The problem is that we only get the politicians we deserve. No "Captain of Industry" is ever going to become a politican because the press and public scrutinise everything they do and say. The pay is also low. The PM gets a salary of £142k, Cabinet Ministers get £134k and MP's get £65K. This is for running a country! Pathetic really, but if we paid the sort of money to get "expert managers" there would be a public outcry. Its never going to happen. IMHO

Cathyferret · 30th April 2012, 17:29

Just had my payslip for the last month, and due to changes in tax, public sector pension contributions, national insurance, etc my pay has got down by £10 - even less disposable income to spend to get the country out of recession.
We don't have Sky, xbox, Nike; son has grown up and left home.
We don't smoke or drink, and don't go abroad for holidays; can't afford to do any of these now if we wanted to.

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Cathyferret Newbie Rover75 saloon Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Just had my payslip for the last month, and due to changes in tax, public sector pension contributions, national insurance, etc my pay has got down by £10 - even less disposable income to spend to get the country out of recession. We don't have Sky, xbox, Nike; son has grown up and left home. We don't smoke or drink, and don't go abroad for holidays; can't afford to do any of these now if we wanted to.