Brake Fail (lucky) - Page 2

sworks · 20th February 2022, 17:21

Glad there’s no harm done Steve it could of been a lot worse. This is a common problem with the Fiat 500’s

bl52krz · 20th February 2022, 17:57

I have actually brought the V6 Connie down the auto box several times, just to see what kind of effect it has in slowing you down. It is effective but you have to be careful of the revs, and you have to press the button in each time you change gear.it is a bit like when I was at work driving a Volvo 8 wheeler rigid, two speed axle. Changing gear and flicking the two speed axle switch. If you have an auto, I would try it out before you need it.

COLVERT · 20th February 2022, 17:58

Does the car have a dual braking system. --

PS.--My Haynes book is out in my garage.---

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Arctic · 20th February 2022, 20:37

[QUOTE=COLVERT;2921342][COLOR="Blue"][SIZE="3"]Does the car have a dual braking system. --

Hi Jon.
yes the braking system is servo assisted duel-circuit type, so if an hydraulic failure happens in one circuit you still get full braking force at two wheels.

I would not like to have teste at speed though to be honest, because even when i was crawling home the brakes did not feel great, you have to really allow for stopping at junctions well before you get there, and keep your distance from the car in front.

On my was home there were two cars right up my rear end & still had to over take

i know they would not know what situation i was in but, if someone is going a 10-15mph in a 30mph area you must at least think Ho something is wrong, but that great thing that most people do not have would have to come into play.

Common sense.

Arctic · 21st February 2022, 13:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by sworks

Glad there’s no harm done Steve it could of been a lot worse. This is a common problem with the Fiat 500’s

Hi Mark.
Thank you for your concern, i am just about to go out and remove the wheel and spray the joints, to help undo them i hope, parts on on there way

purchased from below.

Front
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/234334397183
Rear
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264650221607

vitesse · 21st February 2022, 14:55

Agree the 75 has a dual feed braking system, LR + RF / LF + RR, but my recent experience with a pin-hole leak didn’t give me the impression of full braking force on the other circuit. The pedal went almost to the floor, and the ABS cut in. I got nervously home but my impression was that there was almost zero braking force and I used the manual gears as much as possible, the reservoir was just about empty.
Good luck with the brake pipes to hose connections, I couldn’t release the coupling at the back, cut the pipe off to fit the Irwins, Irwins defeated! Only by moving everything to the bench was I able to release the joint.

Good luck

21st February 2022, 20:31

A proper mechanical handbrake can help a lot too.

Borg Warner · 21st February 2022, 22:32

The parkbrake recently failed on the Jag. Thankfully whilst on the drive as it being one of these electronic things it was stuck solid.

New module and motor. A modest ouch.

Progress eh?

Arctic · 22nd February 2022, 01:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by vitesse

Agree the 75 has a dual feed braking system, LR + RF / LF + RR, but my recent experience with a pin-hole leak didn’t give me the impression of full braking force on the other circuit. The pedal went almost to the floor, and the ABS cut in. I got nervously home but my impression was that there was almost zero braking force and I used the manual gears as much as possible, the reservoir was just about empty.

Quote:

Good luck with the brake pipes to hose connections, I couldn’t release the coupling at the back, cut the pipe off to fit the Irwins, Irwins defeated! Only by moving everything to the bench was I able to release the joint.

Good luck

Hi Mike.
I tried the hose connector into the caliper yesterday and got it to move a little so sprayed it and left it to soak until later today. i will have ago at the back connection today also weather permitting.

It seem the connector as rusted inside the rubber and the pressure as blown it off the rest of the joint photo below.

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I have the joint soaking in plus gas.

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I also cut the hose off and clamped it then added a blank into the hose, inside these hoses are plastic tubing so that is why it's not good to clamp the hose if you ever have to removed the caliper as it will damage the tubing.

Arctic · 23rd February 2022, 22:25

I managed to part the brake hose connector from the brake line in the front wheel arch

what a nightmare.

Remove the clip and soaked the joint over night.

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Two mole grips used.

2

Once cracked the locked thread used brake spanner & mole grips.

3

Success at last.

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New hose temporary fitted until the clips arrive Friday.

So one step forward then three backwards.

Bleed nipple sheared off.

5

You can guess what i am doing tomorrow or the weekend.

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20th February 2022, 17:21	#11
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20th February 2022, 17:57	#12
bl52krz This is my second home Rover 75 cdt club + Rover 2.5 KV6 Conni SE Join Date: May 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 11,392 Thanks: 6,587 Thanked 2,262 Times in 1,729 Posts	I have actually brought the V6 Connie down the auto box several times, just to see what kind of effect it has in slowing you down. It is effective but you have to be careful of the revs, and you have to press the button in each time you change gear.it is a bit like when I was at work driving a Volvo 8 wheeler rigid, two speed axle. Changing gear and flicking the two speed axle switch. If you have an auto, I would try it out before you need it. __________________ Great Barr, Birmingham.

20th February 2022, 17:58	#13
COLVERT This is my second home R75 Saloon. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: France/or Devon. Posts: 14,003 Thanks: 3,851 Thanked 2,167 Times in 1,816 Posts	Does the car have a dual braking system. -- PS.--My Haynes book is out in my garage.----

20th February 2022, 20:37	#14
Arctic Give to Learn Freelander 2 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: West Midlands Posts: 18,707 Thanks: 1,155 Thanked 6,407 Times in 3,874 Posts	[QUOTE=COLVERT;2921342][COLOR="Blue"][SIZE="3"]Does the car have a dual braking system. -- Hi Jon. yes the braking system is servo assisted duel-circuit type, so if an hydraulic failure happens in one circuit you still get full braking force at two wheels. I would not like to have teste at speed though to be honest, because even when i was crawling home the brakes did not feel great, you have to really allow for stopping at junctions well before you get there, and keep your distance from the car in front. On my was home there were two cars right up my rear end & still had to over take i know they would not know what situation i was in but, if someone is going a 10-15mph in a 30mph area you must at least think Ho something is wrong, but that great thing that most people do not have would have to come into play. Common sense. __________________ Arctic Givology Learn to Give Everything is Achievable ad altiora tendo. Check out our Nano meet dates http://www.midlandsnanomeets.co.uk/ http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/index.php?thepage=howto " You do the work , we supply the expertise "

23rd February 2022, 22:25	#20
Arctic Give to Learn Freelander 2 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: West Midlands Posts: 18,707 Thanks: 1,155 Thanked 6,407 Times in 3,874 Posts	Bleed Nipple trouble I managed to part the brake hose connector from the brake line in the front wheel arch what a nightmare. Remove the clip and soaked the joint over night. 1 Two mole grips used. 2 Once cracked the locked thread used brake spanner & mole grips. 3 Success at last. 4 New hose temporary fitted until the clips arrive Friday. So one step forward then three backwards. Bleed nipple sheared off. 5 You can guess what i am doing tomorrow or the weekend. 6 __________________ Arctic Givology Learn to Give Everything is Achievable ad altiora tendo. Check out our Nano meet dates http://www.midlandsnanomeets.co.uk/ http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/index.php?thepage=howto " You do the work , we supply the expertise "

21st February 2022, 14:55	#16
vitesse I really should get out more....... Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Gävle Posts: 2,528 Thanks: 395 Thanked 823 Times in 652 Posts	Agree the 75 has a dual feed braking system, LR + RF / LF + RR, but my recent experience with a pin-hole leak didn’t give me the impression of full braking force on the other circuit. The pedal went almost to the floor, and the ABS cut in. I got nervously home but my impression was that there was almost zero braking force and I used the manual gears as much as possible, the reservoir was just about empty. Good luck with the brake pipes to hose connections, I couldn’t release the coupling at the back, cut the pipe off to fit the Irwins, Irwins defeated! Only by moving everything to the bench was I able to release the joint. Good luck

21st February 2022, 20:31	#17
Bazzateer Guest Posts: n/a	A proper mechanical handbrake can help a lot too.

21st February 2022, 22:32	#18
Borg Warner I really should get out more....... None Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2,579 Thanks: 494 Thanked 657 Times in 402 Posts	The parkbrake recently failed on the Jag. Thankfully whilst on the drive as it being one of these electronic things it was stuck solid. New module and motor. A modest ouch. Progress eh?