Coolant flowchart KV6 190 anyone? - Page 2

ricebridge · 25th November 2018, 19:10

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Originally Posted by SD1too

I think you mean Houston Jonathan!

Nope, I mean Euston. Good British cars call for good British callsigns

This is what it looks like:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/M3gAuFSKriUmp61R9

Second from left should go to the T-joint where the fourth and fifth hoses from the left are connected right now. Either the fourth or the fifth should come down the middle of the T. But that leaves me with one hose left!

marinabrian · 25th November 2018, 21:32

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Originally Posted by ricebridge

Nope, I mean Euston. Good British cars call for good British callsigns

This is what it looks like:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/M3gAuFSKriUmp61R9

Second from left should go to the T-joint where the fourth and fifth hoses from the left are connected right now. Either the fourth or the fifth should come down the middle of the T. But that leaves me with one hose left!

Does the car have an LPG conversion by any chance?

Brian

ricebridge · 25th November 2018, 22:44

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Originally Posted by marinabrian

Does the car have an LPG conversion by any chance?

Brian

I certainly hope not, since I’ve been running it on ordinary petrol.

T-Cut · 26th November 2018, 11:19

The drawing is primarily about the hoses and flow direction. Adding the pump and the flow through the head/block would make it more complex. I find some of RAVE's graphics difficult to follow through the detail.

TC

Randyjim · 26th November 2018, 12:07

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Originally Posted by ricebridge

This is what it looks like:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/M3gAuFSKriUmp61R9

Second from left should go to the T-joint where the fourth and fifth hoses from the left are connected right now. Either the fourth or the fifth should come down the middle of the T. But that leaves me with one hose left!

It look like the same setup as my car, but possibly that the oil cooler has been bridged somehow

The bottom hose from your radiator goes directly to the thermostat, not like the diagram. This is the same as my car, where I believe the oil cooler is in the same circuit as the heater matrix. There are 2 hoses form the T-piece that go back across the engine near the throttle body in your picture. One of these should lead to the heater matrix, the other should go to the reddish metal pipes on the subframe. I cannot see if anything is connected to these from your picture though. If it is not connected to the metal pipe, what is it connected to?

ricebridge · 26th November 2018, 13:19

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Originally Posted by Randyjim

It look like the same setup as my car

What car is that, and why are ours different?

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Originally Posted by Randyjim

but possibly that the oil cooler has been bridged somehow

No, I can’t see that it has, why?

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Originally Posted by Randyjim

the other should go to the reddish metal pipes on the subframe. I cannot see if anything is connected to these from your picture though. If it is not connected to the metal pipe, what is it connected to?

You mean this? I’ve disconnected it and taken it out for examination and possible replacement. It certainly did not look kosher as it was strapped to the frame with
cable ties.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/hKA3kTwE9Q9ri1zi7

Randyjim · 26th November 2018, 13:43

My car is a 2005 ZT190 Manual Saloon.

Where did you remove those pipes from? Are they the same pipes we can see at the bottom of your first picture?

ricebridge · 26th November 2018, 13:45

No, they’re not the same. The pipes on the second picture ran underneath the radiator.

Randyjim · 26th November 2018, 15:07

I've drawn this up based on the pipework I have found on my car:

It's a bit crude, but I hope it makes sense. The green lines are the breather pipes. As you can see my oil cooler is connected very differently to the diagram on post 5, but I don't know why there are different versions if it's not Mk1 and Mk2. Maybe it's for manual/automatic gearboxes or something.

The metal pipes are know to corrode and leak, and mine were recently replaced with stainless steel parts. It look's like you still have the original pipes fitted, but somebody has made up the extra pipes and cable tied them to the subframe, then used some strange plumbing to connect them up!

ricebridge · 26th November 2018, 15:32

Thank you very much, very ambitious diagram! However, if I were to connect it all this way, I'd still end up with a leftover hose. The one coming from the heater has mysteriously multiplied and become two, as you can see in my first image, hoses four and five from the left that are connected with each other i a T joint. (The header is also connected to it via a hose that's just out of the picture to the far right.) Am I finally going insane and hallucinating? Or what is this extra hose all about?

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Originally Posted by Randyjim

somebody has made up the extra pipes and cable tied them to the subframe, then used some strange plumbing to connect them up!

You can certainly say THAT again.

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T-Cut This is my second home Rover75 and Mreg Corsa. Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sumweer onat mote o'dust (Sagin) Posts: 21,753 Thanks: 341 Thanked 3,660 Times in 2,924 Posts	The drawing is primarily about the hoses and flow direction. Adding the pump and the flow through the head/block would make it more complex. I find some of RAVE's graphics difficult to follow through the detail. TC

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Randyjim Regular poster MG ZT 190 Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Gloucester Posts: 83 Thanks: 30 Thanked 25 Times in 21 Posts	My car is a 2005 ZT190 Manual Saloon. Where did you remove those pipes from? Are they the same pipes we can see at the bottom of your first picture?

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ricebridge Avid contributor MG ZT-T Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Bankeryd, Sweden Posts: 100 Thanks: 61 Thanked 11 Times in 10 Posts	No, they’re not the same. The pipes on the second picture ran underneath the radiator.

26th November 2018, 15:07	#19
Randyjim Regular poster MG ZT 190 Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Gloucester Posts: 83 Thanks: 30 Thanked 25 Times in 21 Posts	I've drawn this up based on the pipework I have found on my car: It's a bit crude, but I hope it makes sense. The green lines are the breather pipes. As you can see my oil cooler is connected very differently to the diagram on post 5, but I don't know why there are different versions if it's not Mk1 and Mk2. Maybe it's for manual/automatic gearboxes or something. The metal pipes are know to corrode and leak, and mine were recently replaced with stainless steel parts. It look's like you still have the original pipes fitted, but somebody has made up the extra pipes and cable tied them to the subframe, then used some strange plumbing to connect them up!