Test Drive

marinabrian · 3rd January 2015, 16:42

I have just returned after test driving a Vauxhall Insignia diesel.

What I wanted to be able to say was I was disappointed, but no it was very smooth and civilised with no more cabin noise intrusion than a 75 diesel.

The driving position was good, the seats firm, and there were lots of nice trinkets to keep me occupied whilst driving.

But the best part of all, was the lack of blind spot which for me at least is the Achilles heel of the R40, doesn't matter where I position the driver seat on the 75, the windscreen A-Pillar always interrupts my field of view when approaching roundabouts.

The pedals are sensibly located, the information available from the "IPK" leaves the 75 looking very spartan by comparison.

The downside being the size of the rear window, were more than compensated for by a cavernous boot space.

In more than a few respects, it ticked the boxes for me, and I reckon this would have been akin to what the replacement for the 75 may have evolved into had Rover not collapsed.

While the styling is not as curvaceous as a 75, I would have to say this would be a more than worthy successor to the 75.

Brian

coolcat · 3rd January 2015, 16:46

My Dad ( LittleDeeps ) on here is looking at selling his ZT and buying a Vauxhall Insignia as the replacement .
He praised it in much the same way, the only thing that surprised him was the lack of parking sensors as standard!
Not an expensive retrofit though so not a deal breaker

rosephus · 3rd January 2015, 16:47

I like em.

pab · 3rd January 2015, 16:47

Great car in SRi specification. I've driven one and quietly impressed. A very modern cabin and sharp handling from a large car too.

VMax1000 · 3rd January 2015, 16:50

What's a Vauxhall

A19_Graham · 3rd January 2015, 16:54

I drove one a couple of years ago, followed by the Mondeo titanium x sport, and I found it knocked spots of the insignia.

Pleasant enough, just not very inspiring. But that was probably 4 years back now maybe more.

What didn't help the insignia, was the fact it was white

and the ford was black

Astraeus · 3rd January 2015, 16:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by marinabrian

I have just returned after test driving a Vauxhall Insignia diesel.

What I wanted to be able to say was I was disappointed, but no it was very smooth and civilised with no more cabin noise intrusion than a 75 diesel.

The driving position was good, the seats firm, and there were lots of nice trinkets to keep me occupied whilst driving.

But the best part of all, was the lack of blind spot which for me at least is the Achilles heel of the R40, doesn't matter where I position the driver seat on the 75, the windscreen A-Pillar always interrupts field of view when approaching roundabouts.

The pedals are sensibly located, the information available from the "IPK" leaves the 75 looking very spartan by comparison.

The downside being the size of the rear window, were more than compensated for by a cavernous boot space.

In more than a few respects, it ticked the boxes for me, and I reckon this would have been akin to what the replacement for the 75 may have evolved into had Rover not collapsed.

While the styling is not as curvaceous as a 75, I would have to say this would be a more than worthy successor to the 75.

Brian

Glad you liked it Brian but...and a big but...my old work colleague has a brand new one and my daughter's hubbie has one a few years old. Both been nightmares. My daughter's case endless trouble with fault codes, engine lights , funny running all related to the particulate filter thingy!

garage job to change a light bulb...even worse than our ones.
Allan , who I worked with for more than ten years, treats himself to a new one every three years. Current one less than 12 months old has been recovered ( full lift..no spare wheel) two alloys wrecked in different pot holes within six weeks. ( different ones!

) Allan was very surprised as he thought both were no worse than average. (Two tyres wrecked £250 each...run flats) and two new alloy wheels. He reckons they must be made of plastic! Twice it has been in for new headlight bulbs. Twice in 12 months. Chargeable jobs too. I would not have paid!
It was also recovered twice when it went into some kind of limp mode..odd with a manual... And on both of these occasions they could find no fault after resetting it. Allan has been a loyal Vauxhall driver for more than twenty years buying new every three. This one is to be his last.
I dare say some will have lovely trouble free motoring but it certainly puts me off every considering an older one at some point. Spend enough time keeping my MG Rovers on the road

I think I like my MG Rovers. At least you know how to either fix it yourself or where to find a Brian or Gary

Must admit though I did like the look and feel of Allan's one when he bought it but all that bother should not occur in new cars. I know from others they are not alone.

Now, a nice Jaguar XF.....mmmmm

grivas · 3rd January 2015, 17:01

It is a cheap and cheerful car to replace the 75, designed for reps on motorways, Vauxhall spent their money on interior for sure, but engines are rough mid range power poor and diesel engines very inflexible depreciation will be catastrophic so buy with care, the choice for me will be an estate, but the 75 will be greatly missed, every time I think about it I fell physically sick, God help us all.

Sidetops · 3rd January 2015, 17:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by marinabrian

I have just returned after test driving a Vauxhall Insignia diesel.

What I wanted to be able to say was I was disappointed, but no it was very smooth and civilised with no more cabin noise intrusion than a 75 diesel.

The driving position was good, the seats firm, and there were lots of nice trinkets to keep me occupied whilst driving.

But the best part of all, was the lack of blind spot which for me at least is the Achilles heel of the R40, doesn't matter where I position the driver seat on the 75, the windscreen A-Pillar always interrupts my field of view when approaching roundabouts.

The pedals are sensibly located, the information available from the "IPK" leaves the 75 looking very spartan by comparison.

The downside being the size of the rear window, were more than compensated for by a cavernous boot space.

In more than a few respects, it ticked the boxes for me, and I reckon this would have been akin to what the replacement for the 75 may have evolved into had Rover not collapsed.

While the styling is not as curvaceous as a 75, I would have to say this would be a more than worthy successor to the 75.

Brian

If you thought that was good, then try one of these. Apparently its better on many levels (not that I'm biased!)

Saga Lout · 3rd January 2015, 17:03

I liked them when they came out, now I think they look dated and bland. The Cabrio one was nice but no good in the UK. I've worked on them a few times and I don't think they are built well, just to a price.
My view of them is that if I lined a hundred of them up and looked down the line, I'd wonder what the attraction was. If I did the same with a hundred mixed 75's and ZT's I'd know, and it's not just Rose tints! I'm a Cortina man through and through so I'm not too biased in favour of the Rover/MG, I just think we still haven't seen the best years of them, maybe we will never live to see them but others will.

3rd January 2015, 16:42	#1
marinabrian MG ZT Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 20,151 Thanks: 3,565 Thanked 10,837 Times in 5,718 Posts	Test Drive I have just returned after test driving a Vauxhall Insignia diesel. What I wanted to be able to say was I was disappointed, but no it was very smooth and civilised with no more cabin noise intrusion than a 75 diesel. The driving position was good, the seats firm, and there were lots of nice trinkets to keep me occupied whilst driving. But the best part of all, was the lack of blind spot which for me at least is the Achilles heel of the R40, doesn't matter where I position the driver seat on the 75, the windscreen A-Pillar always interrupts my field of view when approaching roundabouts. The pedals are sensibly located, the information available from the "IPK" leaves the 75 looking very spartan by comparison. The downside being the size of the rear window, were more than compensated for by a cavernous boot space. In more than a few respects, it ticked the boxes for me, and I reckon this would have been akin to what the replacement for the 75 may have evolved into had Rover not collapsed. While the styling is not as curvaceous as a 75, I would have to say this would be a more than worthy successor to the 75. Brian

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coolcat This is my second home Audi Q3 TDI S-Line Quattro Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Clacton On Sea/On the boat somewhere Posts: 51,162 Thanks: 9,890 Thanked 12,235 Times in 8,232 Posts	My Dad ( LittleDeeps ) on here is looking at selling his ZT and buying a Vauxhall Insignia as the replacement . He praised it in much the same way, the only thing that surprised him was the lack of parking sensors as standard! Not an expensive retrofit though so not a deal breaker __________________ Jeff.

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Saga Lout This is my second home MG ZT and Rover 75, Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Wigan Posts: 3,276 Thanks: 2,556 Thanked 2,685 Times in 1,037 Posts	I did like them. I liked them when they came out, now I think they look dated and bland. The Cabrio one was nice but no good in the UK. I've worked on them a few times and I don't think they are built well, just to a price. My view of them is that if I lined a hundred of them up and looked down the line, I'd wonder what the attraction was. If I did the same with a hundred mixed 75's and ZT's I'd know, and it's not just Rose tints! I'm a Cortina man through and through so I'm not too biased in favour of the Rover/MG, I just think we still haven't seen the best years of them, maybe we will never live to see them but others will.

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rosephus Posted a thing or two MG ZT 2.0 CDTi 135+ Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Manchester Posts: 1,122 Thanks: 480 Thanked 213 Times in 145 Posts	I like em.

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pab Banned MG ZT V6 190+ Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Leeds Posts: 33,223 Thanks: 41 Thanked 1,614 Times in 1,416 Posts	Great car in SRi specification. I've driven one and quietly impressed. A very modern cabin and sharp handling from a large car too.

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3rd January 2015, 16:54	#6
A19_Graham I really should get out more....... Land Rover Freelander 2 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hartlepool Posts: 2,454 Thanks: 3,124 Thanked 722 Times in 482 Posts	I drove one a couple of years ago, followed by the Mondeo titanium x sport, and I found it knocked spots of the insignia. Pleasant enough, just not very inspiring. But that was probably 4 years back now maybe more. What didn't help the insignia, was the fact it was white and the ford was black

3rd January 2015, 17:01	#8
grivas I really should get out more....... Rover 75 CDT Club Tourer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Milky Way Posts: 2,380 Thanks: 105 Thanked 513 Times in 382 Posts	It is a cheap and cheerful car to replace the 75, designed for reps on motorways, Vauxhall spent their money on interior for sure, but engines are rough mid range power poor and diesel engines very inflexible depreciation will be catastrophic so buy with care, the choice for me will be an estate, but the 75 will be greatly missed, every time I think about it I fell physically sick, God help us all.