Petrol versus diesel - refinememt

badrover · 18th January 2015, 11:46

I've always driven petrol engined 75s and found them to be quiet, refined, squeak free and very comforting for my commute. My current 1.8t auto tourer with 55k is just lovely in this respect. Ive also got a bargain basement £300, manual CDT tourer with 194k. It's incredibly reliable, frugal and just seems to keep on going, and I love it for towing, tip trips, a bit of a workhorse really. However it lacks the refinement that I have enjoyed with the petrol cars and whenever I use it for the commute, I don't feel as well cosseted as I do in the 1.8t. I can cope with the additional engine noise but it tends to rattle and squeak, is generally noisier and the suspension although clunk free, is somehow less compliant than the petrol engined cars I've had.
Sorry to harp on but I'm looking to buy this

http://www.peterboroughmotorcompany....01501160223709

to replace my 1.8t, for my commute. The 1.8t is so lovely in every respect that I want to preserve it in the garage, with a few other old rovers! Is my diesel experience just the fact that my CDT is tired and probably past its best (although it passed it last mot with no advisories) or is this what I can expect?

marinabrian · 18th January 2015, 11:57

You can expect to be disappointed

It doesn't really matter in terms of mileage covered covered in a diesel, in comparison to any of the petrol variants, they are coarse and uncouth.

I have a 66,000 mile one previous owner FSH diesel, and it's no quieter than any other diesel I've experienced.

The diesel makes a super tow car, and quite a relaxed long distance touring car, but that's about it.

No more reliable, in fact less so than any of the petrols

In short I can't see any point in binning the diesel tourer you currently have, in favour of the one in your link

Brian

Doghouse · 18th January 2015, 19:21

Seems well expensive too

Robson Rover Repair · 18th January 2015, 19:36

Personally the best of the cars is the 2.0v6 auto, ive said it before over and over for sheer relax ment and comfort.

Personally I love the noise of a diesel on full chat, and I like the rattle of a diesel engine. If engine noise is such a big deal then I say for someone to buy a electric car lol.

Also wasnt the sound deadening reduced after project drive on ll the cars including diesels making the newer cars louder?

Vossy · 18th January 2015, 19:48

As already said, the diesels are uncouth unless cruising down the big roads, they love to eat up the miles with no effort at all - but that's where it ends, if you want a refined diesel then go for a beemer with the 3 litre six pot, smooth as silk and power to pull a house down, otherwise stick to a petrol MGR.

Dansrockin · 18th January 2015, 20:17

I'm in agreement with the above. The diesels are great engines, but not as smooth and great sounding as the v6!

Anon3 · 18th January 2015, 20:31

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Originally Posted by Colin_NI

Personally the best of the cars is the 2.0v6 auto, ive said it before over and over for sheer relax ment and comfort.

Personally I love the noise of a diesel on full chat, and I like the rattle of a diesel engine. If engine noise is such a big deal then I say for someone to buy a electric car lol.

Also wasnt the sound deadening reduced after project drive on ll the cars including diesels making the newer cars louder?

I don't know why, as imo it's the equivalent of the Escort 1100.
Ie shockingly underpowered for an executive saloon.

I'd offer you a swap if you didn't have one of those estates

dinky d · 18th January 2015, 20:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by badrover

I've always driven petrol engined 75s and found them to be quiet, refined, squeak free and very comforting for my commute. My current 1.8t auto tourer with 55k is just lovely in this respect. Ive also got a bargain basement £300, manual CDT tourer with 194k. It's incredibly reliable, frugal and just seems to keep on going, and I love it for towing, tip trips, a bit of a workhorse really. However it lacks the refinement that I have enjoyed with the petrol cars and whenever I use it for the commute, I don't feel as well cosseted as I do in the 1.8t. I can cope with the additional engine noise but it tends to rattle and squeak, is generally noisier and the suspension although clunk free, is somehow less compliant than the petrol engined cars I've had.
Sorry to harp on but I'm looking to buy this

http://www.peterboroughmotorcompany....01501160223709

to replace my 1.8t, for my commute. The 1.8t is so lovely in every respect that I want to preserve it in the garage, with a few other old rovers! Is my diesel experience just the fact that my CDT is tired and probably past its best (although it passed it last mot with no advisories) or is this what I can expect?

Why not invest in a pair of ear muffs when you drive the cdt.

DMGRS · 18th January 2015, 20:51

I have to be honest, I've rather fallen out of love with the CDTi models.
They're refined enough (for a diesel) but the amount of PMs and parts I deal with for the diesel massively outstrips the petrol models (granted, I do sell a few K Series head gasket kits too).

I never thought I'd say this, but keep the 1.8T.

Heddy · 18th January 2015, 20:58

Well, I do like my diesel, we do a lot of m/way miles, (18k last year) but the way things are going it's not gonna be the best option. Already we're paying more for diesel than petrol, and some councils seem hell bent on taxing their use by way of levies and pollution taxes. Thinking ahead, I rather fancy a 1.8T. Are they as quiet as other petrol 75's?

18th January 2015, 11:46	#1
badrover Gets stuck in 75 club se tourer,75 cdt tourer connie se, 75 dealer launch Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: cheshire Posts: 536 Thanks: 79 Thanked 97 Times in 73 Posts	Petrol versus diesel - refinememt I've always driven petrol engined 75s and found them to be quiet, refined, squeak free and very comforting for my commute. My current 1.8t auto tourer with 55k is just lovely in this respect. Ive also got a bargain basement £300, manual CDT tourer with 194k. It's incredibly reliable, frugal and just seems to keep on going, and I love it for towing, tip trips, a bit of a workhorse really. However it lacks the refinement that I have enjoyed with the petrol cars and whenever I use it for the commute, I don't feel as well cosseted as I do in the 1.8t. I can cope with the additional engine noise but it tends to rattle and squeak, is generally noisier and the suspension although clunk free, is somehow less compliant than the petrol engined cars I've had. Sorry to harp on but I'm looking to buy this http://www.peterboroughmotorcompany....01501160223709 to replace my 1.8t, for my commute. The 1.8t is so lovely in every respect that I want to preserve it in the garage, with a few other old rovers! Is my diesel experience just the fact that my CDT is tired and probably past its best (although it passed it last mot with no advisories) or is this what I can expect?

18th January 2015, 19:21	#3
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DMGRS Discount MG Rover Spares Rover 75 CDTi, 2x MG ZS180 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Hythe, Southampton Posts: 11,320 Thanks: 456 Thanked 3,377 Times in 2,027 Posts	I have to be honest, I've rather fallen out of love with the CDTi models. They're refined enough (for a diesel) but the amount of PMs and parts I deal with for the diesel massively outstrips the petrol models (granted, I do sell a few K Series head gasket kits too). I never thought I'd say this, but keep the 1.8T. __________________ Your trusted MG Rover specialist! Tel: 02380 001133 / Email: [email protected] We now have a 'chat' function on our site for even quicker replies. Give it a try! Remember - discount code FORUM5 for 5% off

18th January 2015, 11:57	#2
marinabrian MG ZT Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 20,151 Thanks: 3,565 Thanked 10,837 Times in 5,718 Posts	You can expect to be disappointed It doesn't really matter in terms of mileage covered covered in a diesel, in comparison to any of the petrol variants, they are coarse and uncouth. I have a 66,000 mile one previous owner FSH diesel, and it's no quieter than any other diesel I've experienced. The diesel makes a super tow car, and quite a relaxed long distance touring car, but that's about it. No more reliable, in fact less so than any of the petrols In short I can't see any point in binning the diesel tourer you currently have, in favour of the one in your link Brian

18th January 2015, 19:48	#5
Vossy Why? ... MG ZT+ Cdti Auto saloon. Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Blockeswich, South Staffs Posts: 1,549 Thanks: 173 Thanked 483 Times in 330 Posts	As already said, the diesels are uncouth unless cruising down the big roads, they love to eat up the miles with no effort at all - but that's where it ends, if you want a refined diesel then go for a beemer with the 3 litre six pot, smooth as silk and power to pull a house down, otherwise stick to a petrol MGR.

18th January 2015, 20:17	#6
Dansrockin Posted a thing or two MG ZT number 1 of 25 celestial!! Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Banbury Posts: 1,967 Thanks: 208 Thanked 242 Times in 166 Posts	I'm in agreement with the above. The diesels are great engines, but not as smooth and great sounding as the v6!

18th January 2015, 20:58	#10
Heddy This is my second home None Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: None Posts: 5,556 Thanks: 465 Thanked 1,161 Times in 924 Posts	Well, I do like my diesel, we do a lot of m/way miles, (18k last year) but the way things are going it's not gonna be the best option. Already we're paying more for diesel than petrol, and some councils seem hell bent on taxing their use by way of levies and pollution taxes. Thinking ahead, I rather fancy a 1.8T. Are they as quiet as other petrol 75's?