1.8T belt disaster - Page 4

Shide · 18th June 2017, 11:23

Aw stop it, I might just split my sides laughing! Seriously, I need to find someone who has the know how, done this before and has the right tools for the job and be prepared to get their hands dirty on my behalf.

Lovel · 18th June 2017, 12:42

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Originally Posted by Shide

I take it all back. spent this afternoon crawling around under the car and....cam pulleys line up, crank does not, about 1/4 turn out. So, worst scenario? what damage could have been done to the engine, bent valves, head, pistons?

When looking buying a 25 diesel privately and agreeing on a price, the owner asked me if I knew anything about his Freelander with a 1.8 Kseries engine which had been through a number of main dealers with owner reporting running issues and not one of them fixed it. It started (just) and drove horribly. With very limited access to tools and at the kerbside, I was able to confirm that the timing was out by a few teeth and had been for many thousands of miles! Once retimed and 30 mins later it was running beautifully. In fact the owner was so happy with the outcome he gave me £100 back

Once you retime it just try a compression test, but beware that a cold compression test is not always conclusive, the test should be done on a hot engine once the hydraulic tappets have settled down.

SD1too · 18th June 2017, 12:42

Try cb750chris. Easy access for him via the A3.

Simon

Shide · 18th June 2017, 18:51

Thanks, but he is at the bottom of the county, I'm at the top. That's a fair old trek one of us has to make. Anyone nearer?

JeffD · 18th June 2017, 19:26

I own a 2003 1.8T and this exact same thing happened to me last week!

At first I noticed there was a flapping noise from the engine bay then all of a sudden my steering went very heavy. When I inspected the belts the power steering belt was missing and the alternator belt was looking very worse for wear.

Rang the local motorfactor who had them in stock and bought 2 Gates (decent quality) belts for just under £15 for the pair.

Codes are 5PK1200 and 3PK738.

On the way to collecting them there was another noise and all of a sudden the alternator light lit up :-(

Wasn't sure whether to rurn back or not but decided to press on to the motor factors and pick up the belts as it was only a couple of miles away. Anyway, car got me there and when I checked the alternator belt was missing too :-( Got the belts and drove home (passing my old belt lyng in the road!) In all I did about 5 miles with no alternator belt.

To replace them you need a 13mm swan neck spanner. Take the front wheel off nearest the belts and loosely place the belt over the top pulley and using the spanner on the tensioner pulley pull the tensioner enough to allow you to slip the belt over the big pulley. Repeat for the other belt. and your done :-)

NB I actually got my wife to hold the spanner in tension whilst I put the belts on as quite fiddly to do on your own.

SD1too · 18th June 2017, 19:34

Carl,

Given that your car is undriveable, it's Chris' decision. You've got nothing to lose by asking him. According to the AA his journey would be about 45 miles and takes about an hour.

Simon

simondhopkins · 19th June 2017, 07:03

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Originally Posted by Shide

Thanks, but he is at the bottom of the county, I'm at the top. That's a fair old trek one of us has to make. Anyone nearer?

Where abouts as your link says ash vale, I assume thats Surrey, but you say up the top of the country, if you've up t'north (sorry I always take the mick when northers say it here) I'm in Burnley, Lancashire and can time these engines, just chuck a cup of coffee my way.

EDIT: Sorry its early, thought it said country, not county. DOH!

Shide · 19th June 2017, 10:02

Ash Vale, near Aldershot/Farnborough. One of the places the Post Office can't decide where it is. We're in Surrey under Guildford BC but postally we are in Hampshire.

cb750chris · 19th June 2017, 13:18

Some good advice on here.
Thanks for your PM, I have replied, hopefully you will get this sorted, but if not I should be able to help you next week.

Chris

marinabrian · 19th June 2017, 15:26

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Originally Posted by Shide

Ash Vale, near Aldershot/Farnborough. One of the places the Post Office can't decide where it is. We're in Surrey under Guildford BC but postally we are in Hampshire.

Mike Noc isn't that far from you iirc, and he'll know how to time up a K series

Brian

18th June 2017, 11:23	#31
Shide Avid contributor Rover 75 1.8T Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Ash Vale Posts: 133 Thanks: 5 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts	Hilarious Aw stop it, I might just split my sides laughing! Seriously, I need to find someone who has the know how, done this before and has the right tools for the job and be prepared to get their hands dirty on my behalf.

18th June 2017, 12:42	#33
SD1too Doesn't do things by halves Rover 75 2.5 Connoisseur Auto (1999) Dealer launch model. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Former Middlesex Posts: 20,389 Thanks: 1,587 Thanked 3,749 Times in 3,181 Posts	Try cb750chris. Easy access for him via the A3. Simon __________________ "Whatever is rightly done, however humble, is noble." Sir Henry Royce.

18th June 2017, 18:51	#34
Shide Avid contributor Rover 75 1.8T Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Ash Vale Posts: 133 Thanks: 5 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts	re Thanks, but he is at the bottom of the county, I'm at the top. That's a fair old trek one of us has to make. Anyone nearer?

18th June 2017, 19:34	#36
SD1too Doesn't do things by halves Rover 75 2.5 Connoisseur Auto (1999) Dealer launch model. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Former Middlesex Posts: 20,389 Thanks: 1,587 Thanked 3,749 Times in 3,181 Posts	Carl, Given that your car is undriveable, it's Chris' decision. You've got nothing to lose by asking him. According to the AA his journey would be about 45 miles and takes about an hour. Simon __________________ "Whatever is rightly done, however humble, is noble." Sir Henry Royce.

19th June 2017, 13:18	#39
cb750chris Trader Rover 75 Tourer Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 849 Thanks: 201 Thanked 292 Times in 200 Posts	Some good advice on here. Thanks for your PM, I have replied, hopefully you will get this sorted, but if not I should be able to help you next week. Chris __________________ Now offering T4 services in the Fareham area Replacement keys programmed / supplied / cut Diesel 135 upgrade available IPK virginisation and T4 matching available Sorry, due to a big change in home circumstances, I am unable to do any large jobs at present, but can still offer evening time diagnostics.

18th June 2017, 19:26	#35
JeffD Loves to post Rover 75 1.8T SE Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Southport Posts: 402 Thanks: 1 Thanked 72 Times in 37 Posts	I own a 2003 1.8T and this exact same thing happened to me last week! At first I noticed there was a flapping noise from the engine bay then all of a sudden my steering went very heavy. When I inspected the belts the power steering belt was missing and the alternator belt was looking very worse for wear. Rang the local motorfactor who had them in stock and bought 2 Gates (decent quality) belts for just under £15 for the pair. Codes are 5PK1200 and 3PK738. On the way to collecting them there was another noise and all of a sudden the alternator light lit up :-( Wasn't sure whether to rurn back or not but decided to press on to the motor factors and pick up the belts as it was only a couple of miles away. Anyway, car got me there and when I checked the alternator belt was missing too :-( Got the belts and drove home (passing my old belt lyng in the road!) In all I did about 5 miles with no alternator belt. To replace them you need a 13mm swan neck spanner. Take the front wheel off nearest the belts and loosely place the belt over the top pulley and using the spanner on the tensioner pulley pull the tensioner enough to allow you to slip the belt over the big pulley. Repeat for the other belt. and your done :-) NB I actually got my wife to hold the spanner in tension whilst I put the belts on as quite fiddly to do on your own.

19th June 2017, 10:02	#38
Shide Avid contributor Rover 75 1.8T Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Ash Vale Posts: 133 Thanks: 5 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts	Ash Vale, near Aldershot/Farnborough. One of the places the Post Office can't decide where it is. We're in Surrey under Guildford BC but postally we are in Hampshire.