1.8T belt disaster - Page 2

Shide · 16th June 2017, 10:25

That's what I've done, marks line up.

roverbarmy · 16th June 2017, 10:56

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Originally Posted by Shide

That's what I've done, marks line up.

Did you check that the bottom pulley was lined up aswell as the cam pulleys?

SD1too · 16th June 2017, 11:44

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Originally Posted by Shide

75, 1.8T. has thrown its drive belts. Power steering and alternator ...

Carl,

Is this a proven fact or an assumption because the engine stopped, your power steering became heavy and the 'battery charging' warning light illuminated?

In other words, do you have two broken auxiliary belts which you can actually see?

Simon

simondhopkins · 16th June 2017, 12:02

Put it back together, and put a new aux belt on, if the alternator is not turning, the engine wont fire up from experience.

Better to pay for the belt and pop it on than strip the engine for no reason. You'll need a new belt either way so as long as no remnants of the old belt were seen in the timing belt cover you should be ok.

My old 416si ate its aux belt and wouldnt start, put new belt on and was ok, until i wrote it off.

Shide · 16th June 2017, 12:48

Yes, I most definitely have two broken belts. One flew skywards, never to be seen again. The other shredded itself round the pulley. I will get a couple of new ones and see what happens. An easy job?

Shide · 16th June 2017, 12:51

But why would the engine not start because a belt has broken. My experience is that an engine will not charge and boil up. Can't see why it just shut down.

SD1too · 16th June 2017, 14:00

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Originally Posted by Shide

Yes, I most definitely have two broken belts. I will get a couple of new ones and see what happens.

Yes, that's what you should do. You've already exposed the timing belt which is good, and you don't see any evidence of damage to the teeth. Check that the tensioner hasn't failed. Align the timing marks so that you can find out if the timing is correct or not.

There's no point in speculating about whether or not it should start with or without auxiliary belts. A tool kit and careful observation are your best diagnostic methods now.

Simon

BoroRover · 16th June 2017, 14:57

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Yes, I most definitely have two broken belts. One flew skywards, never to be seen again. The other shredded itself round the pulley. I will get a couple of new ones and see what happens. An easy job?

Both belts went on my 1.8 one shredded round a pulley, I think the AA man said crankshaft pulley. AA man followed me to local garage , steering very heavy of course, and not charging, garage was a short distance away,both belts replaced in about an hour £60. Drive away !!

kaiser · 17th June 2017, 06:45

I cannot see any reason why an engine will not fire, if the aux belts are off.
I think you should show us a picture of the timing marks together with the pulley mark.
I have had alternator belt go taking the cam belt with it. Bent valves. I have had a cam belt go on an MGF, but the valves survived!

You have to check the timing marks properly.

Shide · 17th June 2017, 08:53

I will re-check, but, if the cam pulleys line up why would there be any reason why the crank wouldn't? If the belt jumped, they'd all be out of sync surely.

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Shide Avid contributor Rover 75 1.8T Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Ash Vale Posts: 133 Thanks: 5 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts	Re That's what I've done, marks line up.

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Shide Avid contributor Rover 75 1.8T Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Ash Vale Posts: 133 Thanks: 5 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts	belts Yes, I most definitely have two broken belts. One flew skywards, never to be seen again. The other shredded itself round the pulley. I will get a couple of new ones and see what happens. An easy job?

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Shide Avid contributor Rover 75 1.8T Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Ash Vale Posts: 133 Thanks: 5 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts	not starting. But why would the engine not start because a belt has broken. My experience is that an engine will not charge and boil up. Can't see why it just shut down.

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kaiser This is my second home 75 Tourer 2.5 Auto, 1.8T, 75V8ZT Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Johannesburg ZA Posts: 6,200 Thanks: 1 Thanked 859 Times in 613 Posts	I cannot see any reason why an engine will not fire, if the aux belts are off. I think you should show us a picture of the timing marks together with the pulley mark. I have had alternator belt go taking the cam belt with it. Bent valves. I have had a cam belt go on an MGF, but the valves survived! You have to check the timing marks properly. __________________ Worth his V8 in gold

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Shide Avid contributor Rover 75 1.8T Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Ash Vale Posts: 133 Thanks: 5 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts	Re timing I will re-check, but, if the cam pulleys line up why would there be any reason why the crank wouldn't? If the belt jumped, they'd all be out of sync surely.

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simondhopkins Loves to post Vauxhall Vectra C Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Burnley Posts: 445 Thanks: 179 Thanked 88 Times in 62 Posts	Put it back together, and put a new aux belt on, if the alternator is not turning, the engine wont fire up from experience. Better to pay for the belt and pop it on than strip the engine for no reason. You'll need a new belt either way so as long as no remnants of the old belt were seen in the timing belt cover you should be ok. My old 416si ate its aux belt and wouldnt start, put new belt on and was ok, until i wrote it off.