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Old 16th August 2015, 12:31   #21
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Not this time at least Bri ?
Yes, you could be right about that young sir

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Old 16th August 2015, 12:33   #22
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The giveaway was the date and mileage tippexed inside the belt cover

Anyway who would you get to change all three belts on a V6 for £12.50 and a packet of crisps.

A V6 wouldn't be a car for you I'd bet

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I'm fully capable of doing that myself. I used to build and race cars.
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Old 16th August 2015, 12:42   #23
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I don't know were your getting the China stuff from?
I'm not selling anything or pushing a service.
All I'm getting is traders jumping all over me for wanting a good price for a friend.
All of what I've said is true,can't say any more.
I'm not a trader but I'll give you a great price for a remap........

It is £120 and that is a bargain
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Old 16th August 2015, 12:46   #24
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I don't know were your getting the China stuff from?
I'm not selling anything or pushing a service.
All I'm getting is traders jumping all over me for wanting a good price for a friend.
All of what I've said is true,can't say any more.
Yes, you can Shawn, you can tell me who charged you for checking your car was upgraded.

Either that, or I could pick up the phone to any of the T4 operators on here and find out who was last hooked up to your car, if it were any of them.

What you don't seem to understand, is your friend would not be paying for a generic off the peg job, but rather a tailored upgrade designed for their car.

What you would get for a measly £120 is the combined knowledge of me, Russ, and Phil.

Now I don't know what you do for a living, nor do I care, however I bet neither you, nor the person supplying a £50 upgrade to your friend supply R40 diesel engine management systems to the people supplying Rover parts world wide......I do though

Also you reckon this was done with a "cheap laptop and a second hand T4"

Well I'm going to let you into a little secret, I paid £7500+vat for my T4 in 2006, and do you know what else, if you weren't too tight to pay 19 pence a week to subscribe to this forum, you could have driven up to see me and had all of the deepest darkest secrets of your car revealed, and the benefit of having as much knowledge thrown in your direction as you could absorb while being plied with coffee and chocolate biscuits, for not one penny !!

Beat that for a deal, you won't get this from Facebook, or other places, because I'm not there

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Old 16th August 2015, 12:48   #25
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I'm not a trader but I'll give you a great price for a remap........

It is £120 and that is a bargain
But its half an hours labour,I bet everytime someone charges some old guy that a little bit of them dies inside because of what they've done. I couldn't do it!
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I'm fully capable of doing that myself. I used to build and race cars.
But you'd only moan and groan at the cost of the special tools required to do the job properly though

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But its half an hours labour,I bet everytime someone charges some old guy that a little bit of them dies inside because of what they've done. I couldn't do it!
No, I can lie straight in bed just fine Shawn, do you know why?, because if someone isn't totally happy with the transformation of their car, I remove the upgrade and don't charge them a penny

The point you are missing is the work involved in the preparation of the nine distinct basic tunes took approximately eleven thousand man hours to complete.

And add into that in 2005 Rover charged £538 for an X-Power 131PS upgrade, and up until 12 months ago X-Part charged £199+Vat, and today for the same upgrade charge when combined with a T4 session required to install it from an X-Part agent £140, how do you think £120 is dear

Are you just a terminal tightwad?

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Old 16th August 2015, 13:03   #29
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But you'd only moan and groan at the cost of the special tools required to do the job properly though

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I'm not a mechanic ,I'm a qualified retired engineer. Don't know what special tools are involved but there is every chance I could make them. I've always made everything. I'm not a big fan of modern cars and their magical hidden box of tricks that only a few people have the keys to. But I don't see why it costs so much to provide a window as to what's going on in my own car.
This is the underlying problem I have with all this smoke and mirrors technology.
Again! everything I've said has been true!
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Some people just love a bargain, every price just a starting point for negotiation. I've known people barter in charity shops. They love that buzz from getting a deal. Some people are just wired up that way.
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