'1998' 75 Connoisseur in dire need of work - Page 3

SD1too · 8th May 2014, 07:51

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Originally Posted by ukmastiff

The lady has just told me the sump is smashed so not a minor gearbox tweek which is a shame.

Mas,

If you're interested, as with any car, it is important to view it yourself. Don't rely absolutely on the seller's description. In this case she may have mis-identified a part, or repeated what someone else has told her, because "the sump is smashed" doesn't make much sense to me without further detail.

It's still worth pursuing I would say.

Simon

ukmastiff · 8th May 2014, 08:00

Sump smashed was probably my poor description. The lady said she grounded the car leaving the liquid contents of the gearbox all over the road and zero gears selectable.
That defo sounds like a smashed gearbox to me

And yes if it werent for the fact that it defo needs a replacement gearbox I'd jump at the chance of slowly tinkering with it.
Not too sure re changing gearboxes after changing a manual gearbox not that long ago. It put me off lol

Cheers

SD1too · 8th May 2014, 08:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukmastiff

The lady said she grounded the car leaving the liquid contents of the gearbox all over the road and zero gears selectable.
That defo sounds like a smashed gearbox to me ..

If I may say so, that's just a pessimistic guess. The problem could easily be a damaged fluid cooler line. These are mounted very low down and would be the first to be hit when running over a lump of granite, which is what the seller says happened in her revised listing.

"Smashing" the gearbox casting would take such an enormous force that it would not be my first suspicion.

As I said, any prospective buyer needs to get on their hands and knees and inspect the damage. Only then will the truth be known.

Simon

Gate Keeper · 8th May 2014, 09:05

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Originally Posted by SD1too

If I may say so, that's just a pessimistic guess. The problem could easily be a damaged fluid cooler line. These are mounted very low down and would be the first to be hit when running over a lump of granite, which is what the seller says happened in her revised listing.

"Smashing" the gearbox casting would take such an enormous force that it would not be my first suspicion.

As I said, any prospective buyer needs to get on their hands and knees and inspect the damage. Only then will the truth be known.

Simon

Good point Simon, given this 1998 is not the S reg I had at first wondered about. As for cracking the bell housing or anything else around there, how is a buyer going to check for that on a visit. Yes crawl underneath, what else? Any other tips like pushing the front of the car up and down to see if it bounces or not? Last year a visitor took his Kia company car, a 4x4 up the mountain off road and he hit a boulder which ruptured the fuel tank. It is rare but things like this can happen. As you say it is best to do a visual check.

Howie666 · 8th May 2014, 09:51

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Originally Posted by rich17865

I never suggested scrapping it, but suggesting it is like a Spitfire is, in my opinion, offensive.

No, you didn't explicitly state you thought it should be scrapped. I must ask, however, why you find the comparison offensive? My dad was a Squadron Leader in the RAF. I grew up as an Air Scout, something I was very proud of. To me the 75/ZTs represent the best of British cars (that the other 99% could actually buy) of their time. The Spitfire (I was lucky enough to sit in one when I was tiny) represented the best Britain could make at the time as a fighter plane.
I don't find the comparison offensive.
And I don't understand why being an advocate for keeping these cars (especially the rare ones such as this) on the road is a cause for derision, sarcasm or downright rudeness. There might be a lot of 75s/ZTs still on the roads but they're NOT making them anymore!
So if we keep on scrapping them there won't be any cars left to have a club with. And I don't believe MGR ever made a 'rubbish' 75 or ZT.

ukmastiff · 8th May 2014, 09:59

Well PeteT lives up the road and if its a bargain he'll buy it wont he cos he's PeteT lol

Petetourer · 8th May 2014, 10:11

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Originally Posted by ukmastiff

Well PeteT lives up the road and if its a bargain he'll buy it wont he cos he's PeteT lol

Alas, with a house move occurring and a current car that has cost me a small fortune to get it to where it is now, there is NO way I could buy this....

The problem is with a car like this is that no matter how desirable it is to keep on the road, it is more than likely that a breaker will pay more for it than someone wishing to put it back on the road..

Cars like this blow budgets... You may think you know what needs doing, but trust me there is always more that pops up... Take your initial budget and double it

Taking into account how much you are going to spend getting this back on the road and back to good condition and your purchase price is gonna need to be low.. Even then you will never make money on it...

So it needs to be someone who wants the car as a keeper and is not afraid to spend a fair chunk of cash on it... Maybe in 15-20 years you will start to see a return on your investment....

Compare that to someone who breaks these for a living and they already know how much can be made from the parts and the amount they would pay would (IMHO) be higher than most would pay for it....

ukmastiff · 8th May 2014, 10:17

Pete we know what you are saying is 100 % correct

, it had all of course occured to yours truly who never makes money on his cars anyway as you know just has a bit of fun then loses a tiny bit which is o.k with me

However if we were lucky enough for it not to go to a breaker then I did think youd be the one to take it before me

I hope the move goes well , I sent you an e mail about your move etc anyway

Cheers

Petetourer · 8th May 2014, 10:19

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Originally Posted by ukmastiff

Pete we know what you are saying is 100 % correct

, it had all of course occured to yours truly who never makes money on his cars anyway as you know just has a bit of fun then loses a tiny bit which is o.k with me

However if we were lucky enough for it not to go to a breaker then I did think youd be the one to take it before me

I hope the move goes well , I sent you an e mail about your move etc anyway

Cheers

Replied to your mail

I won't be bidding on the car mate. Have not even added it to the watch list.

Gate Keeper · 8th May 2014, 10:26

Pete is right when he says you could blow budgets on a car like this, but if someone has got the money and know how to deal with the repairs and return the car to its former glory, then so much the better.

Given what Pete has just told us about his circumstances, a car such as this would not be suiting his needs I am guessing. Fair comment.

8th May 2014, 08:00	#22
ukmastiff Gets stuck in 2003 ZT-T CDTI '+' a ZT Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: N/E Herts Posts: 977 Thanks: 4 Thanked 42 Times in 36 Posts	Sump smashed was probably my poor description. The lady said she grounded the car leaving the liquid contents of the gearbox all over the road and zero gears selectable. That defo sounds like a smashed gearbox to me And yes if it werent for the fact that it defo needs a replacement gearbox I'd jump at the chance of slowly tinkering with it. Not too sure re changing gearboxes after changing a manual gearbox not that long ago. It put me off lol Cheers __________________ ☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆ Last edited by ukmastiff; 8th May 2014 at 08:23..

8th May 2014, 09:59	#26
ukmastiff Gets stuck in 2003 ZT-T CDTI '+' a ZT Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: N/E Herts Posts: 977 Thanks: 4 Thanked 42 Times in 36 Posts	Well PeteT lives up the road and if its a bargain he'll buy it wont he cos he's PeteT lol __________________ ☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆

8th May 2014, 10:17	#28
ukmastiff Gets stuck in 2003 ZT-T CDTI '+' a ZT Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: N/E Herts Posts: 977 Thanks: 4 Thanked 42 Times in 36 Posts	Pete we know what you are saying is 100 % correct , it had all of course occured to yours truly who never makes money on his cars anyway as you know just has a bit of fun then loses a tiny bit which is o.k with me However if we were lucky enough for it not to go to a breaker then I did think youd be the one to take it before me I hope the move goes well , I sent you an e mail about your move etc anyway Cheers __________________ ☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆

8th May 2014, 10:26	#30
Gate Keeper This is my second home 4X4 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Nairobi Posts: 20,072 Thanks: 8,286 Thanked 7,017 Times in 4,160 Posts	Pete is right when he says you could blow budgets on a car like this, but if someone has got the money and know how to deal with the repairs and return the car to its former glory, then so much the better. Given what Pete has just told us about his circumstances, a car such as this would not be suiting his needs I am guessing. Fair comment.