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Old 20th June 2017, 15:11   #1
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Default Clutch pedal stiff

I've noticed my clutch pedal is starting to feel stiff on occasions, feels like I'm pushing against a hard rubber block, gear changing can also be difficult at times (no pedal to floor as yet though).

I suppose this would indicate a clutch master cylinder problem, and not the clutch itself (have no clutch plate or thrust-bearing fault noise).

Can I get away with just changing the clutch master cylinder, or will topping up the fluid work, I suppose I better check it first.

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Old 20th June 2017, 15:22   #2
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It can be debris in the fluid in the valve at the end of the M/C. Try a bleed first. easiest option or strip the m/c and clean it all.
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I have a similar ocurrance,But most times the clutch is light and then others it is noticeabilly heavy still havnt worked it out.
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It can be debris in the fluid in the valve at the end of the M/C. Try a bleed first. easiest option or strip the m/c and clean it all.
Thanks Mike, easy said than done, especially in this lovely hot weather.


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I have a similar ocurrance,But most times the clutch is light and then others it is noticeabilly heavy still havnt worked it out.
That is exactly how I feel John, I have always thought this when I first bought the red one. Sometimes the clutch pedal would feel hard/stiff, other times all would seem fine, and I would forget about it.

I dont drive the car that often, and have been driving several other newer cars lately, so I may just feel that my ZT's clutch is heavy than most. My blue ZT has a heavy clutch, but doesn't seem as heavy as the red, so I too am unsure.
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Thanks Mike, easy said than done, especially in this lovely hot weather.




That is exactly how I feel John, I have always thought this when I first bought the red one. Sometimes the clutch pedal would feel hard/stiff, other times all would seem fine, and I would forget about it.

I dont drive the car that often, and have been driving several other newer cars lately, so I may just feel that my ZT's clutch is heavy than most. My blue ZT has a heavy clutch, but doesn't seem as heavy as the red, so I too am unsure.
When and if it cools down over here I am going to give it a flush thru.Will let you know what happens.I fitted a Tazu metal MC a couple of years backand has always been OK.
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I've just been out and had a quick look, how the hell is one meant to work in that small space, and why on earth is the MC black?

The fluid level seems fine.

It must be me, maybe I'm becoming paranoid.

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Hi,It was a fit and forget system

Firstly,cost nothing to clean the little valve....

https://the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/s...d.php?t=192663

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I've just been out and had a quick look, how the hell is one meant to work in that small space, and why on earth is the MC black?
It is not as bad as it might look, once you get to it. Remove the above toe panel, remove the under dash panel [1], then unclip the clip-on at the end of the pivot. Just two bolts fixing it then, plus the hydraulic pipe out the back.

You can either disconnect the end of the pipe from the MC, by pushing the locking pin out, or pull the entire pipe through, or a mix of both.

[1] many fail to realise that this can be removed, it is worth taking it off for the better light and sight you get on the MC. It runs along the dash just below the steering wheel.
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Hi,It was a fit and forget system

Firstly,cost nothing to clean the little valve....

https://the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/s...d.php?t=192663

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It is not as bad as it might look, once you get to it. Remove the above toe panel, remove the under dash panel [1], then unclip the clip-on at the end of the pivot. Just two bolts fixing it then, plus the hydraulic pipe out the back.

You can either disconnect the end of the pipe from the MC, by pushing the locking pin out, or pull the entire pipe through, or a mix of both.

[1] many fail to realise that this can be removed, it is worth taking it off for the better light and sight you get on the MC. It runs along the dash just below the steering wheel.
Harry, you make it all sound so very easy.

Fellas, so would I be best investing in a Tazu MC, or go about cleaning the one I have?
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I've noticed my clutch pedal is starting to feel stiff on occasions, feels like I'm pushing against a hard rubber block, gear changing can also be difficult at times (no pedal to floor as yet though).

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I hate to say it Wes, but my pedal started to feel stiff and then I had a terminal slave cylinder failure.

I hope it is not the case with your car.
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