Worrying situation

[Mike Trident]

Just read this on a Facebook Post.
This is very worrying
https://flic.kr/p/2mFQJGg
If you read the bottom section of the picture it says no modifications from standard, software and hardware . Plus you can only have you say on the government website till the 22nd of November. Dynodaze and many other company's like us up and down the country supplying ,fitting and mapping in modified parts would be out of business over night. Funny how this is our core business and yet we have not been notified of any of this , I'm reading it on social media.
Have your say .
https://www.gov.uk/government/consul...ling-tampering

[genpk]

the manufacturers and govt dont care about classic cars, infact they see them as polluting vehicles, the vehicle manufacturers are pushing hard to be get rid of the small independent mechanical shops through licensing their own IT for their cars so you will only be able to go to them for servicing.
Sort of what the large grocery chains did to the local corner stores.

[clf]

will these legislations not be introduced for vehicles made after a certain date? (I couldnt see anything about this).

I was once given an option to remove the cat on an old passat I had. Which I could legally do apparently, as it was first registered before 2004 or something similar - this was around 2008). But if it was a newer car, I had to have it. I believe currently there is similar regarding DPFs and their removal.

[macafee2]

Originally Posted by Mike Trident

Just read this on a Facebook Post.
This is very worrying
https://flic.kr/p/2mFQJGg
If you read the bottom section of the picture it says no modifications from standard, software and hardware . Plus you can only have you say on the government website till the 22nd of November. Dynodaze and many other company's like us up and down the country supplying ,fitting and mapping in modified parts would be out of business over night. Funny how this is our core business and yet we have not been notified of any of this , I'm reading it on social media.
Have your say .
https://www.gov.uk/government/consul...ling-tampering

Perhaps I am missing something but it does not cover a remap but does cover an EGR bypass.

Apat from the EGR bypass, what are your concerns?

macafee2

[Mike Trident]

Originally Posted by macafee2

Perhaps I am missing something but it does not cover a remap but does cover an EGR bypass.

Apat from the EGR bypass, what are your concerns?

macafee2

No modifications from standard, software or hardware!

Surely software would include a remap?

[Mike Trident]

If everything has to be totally standard, it will be nigh on impossible to keep one of these cars on the road.

[macafee2]

I did not know what NRMM was so looked it up, if you dont know, see below

Non-road mobile machinery (NRMM) is defined as any mobile machine or vehicle that is not solely intended for carrying passengers or goods on the road.

macafee2

[bl52krz]

So does it apply or not to our vehicles. Is it being misinterpreted? Oh sorry. It is evidently on facearse, so it must be true.

[Mike Trident]

Originally Posted by macafee2

I did not know what NRMM was so looked it up, if you dont know, see below

Non-road mobile machinery (NRMM) is defined as any mobile machine or vehicle that is not solely intended for carrying passengers or goods on the road.

macafee2

But it's not just NRMM

"Tackling tampering
We will create new offences for tampering with a system, part or component of a vehicle intended or adapted to be used on a road. This will enable us to address existing gaps in the legislation, ensuring cleaner and safer vehicles. We will also create new offences for tampering with non-road mobile machinery (NRMM) and for advertising ‘tampering’ services or products."


If you read all the magazine article it appears it's worrying the classic car scene. Even the MG owners club technical advisor has expressed his concerns.

[clf]

Originally Posted by Mike Noc

I'm all for it. Imagine buying a car that unbeknown to you some idiot had rewired the alarm light of a failed SRS system to something that was working - you'd only find out in that split second after a major shunt.

The flip side to this will be a null warranty. 'Our data shows that you drove your car with 2psi less in the front right tyre for 126 hours. This proves a lack of maintenance sir, and therefore your seized engine is not covered'.

It will be a very fine line to tread.

Add to this, speeding fines could become automatic via gps, with no ability to appeal. Gps states you were on x road at x time. How could you disprove this? Eg missing the initial 40mph limit sign after a national speed limit dual carriageway, due to another driver swerving into your path or an over grown hedgerow (basic inattention wouldn't wash obviously lol).

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