Test Drive - Page 4

bikerdude666 · 3rd January 2015, 21:52

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Originally Posted by Avora

In fairness, electronics are reliable. Mechanicals are not. Our handbrake compensators etc fail.

Electronics need to be protected from water and oil etc. But generally won't wear out.

But then, I'm in electronics.

Our compensators certainly fail, but you have to apply the handbrake, and at worst, it may roll a bit.

Electrics may well be protected, but I am far from having complete faith in their reliability. Had too many electrical connectors, and components fail on things to trust them fully. I assume that the handbrakes natural position is 'ON', and so a loss of power for any sort of problem would result in the brake being applied. I know I'm off topic and the chances are very very small, but I'd prefer mechanical to electronic.

Just realised my neighbour has a '13 plate insignia, in a colour very similar to X-Power grey, he doesn't seem to have had any problems. Not that I know which engine it is. The other neighbour with the '11 Passat bluemotion however has had to have it taken to the dealers twice in the last 6 months. Can't remember what it was for, but it wasn't cheap, and he's not the sort to abuse a car.

VMax1000 · 3rd January 2015, 22:01

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Originally Posted by MrDoodles

A Holden with it's badge replaced!

Oh...............it's an imposter..................known as OPEL in the real world.

That's the one ????

Zafonic · 3rd January 2015, 22:10

Eiwwwww they are pig ugly!!
The new Mondeo is a world apart IMHO

Avora · 3rd January 2015, 22:12

There isn't much excuse for not keeping water out of connectors nowadays. Of course, cost is the driving dark force.

You'll find many more mechanical items fail on anything than the electronics. Most electronics are blamed when a mechanical failure of some sort occurs, relays or seals etc.

Don't forget the engineering time and safety considerations put in to any product made today. Our cars certain got a good going over.

I'd have a Monaro, or maybe an Omega V6 for cheap. My brother had a cheap one for a while, good fun and plenty of similarities.

Frameside · 3rd January 2015, 22:15

read this tread with interest, all opinions are valid opinions of course.

I had a diesel insignia estate for about 4 weeks when the 520 d was being straightened out. it was a very good car in all respects and compares well ( in my opinion) to ZT cdti.maybe the engine was a bit more harsh, but the cabin refinements were far superior.

No sure I would want one for the 30 to 40k of business miles I do each year hence a 520 -(which is soon to be replaced by an A6 Avant diesel) sits next to the MGs on the drive.

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Graham1961 · 3rd January 2015, 22:34

I like the look of the Insignia, stylish and the interior looks very inviting.

It's better looking than the Mondeo (I think) but from what I have read doesn't drive quite as well as the Ford.

bikerdude666 · 3rd January 2015, 23:39

After reading this thread I've just spent a bit of time on autotrader looking at cars that are out of my price range now, but that I could afford in a few years. So far the only thing that has an interior I could go as far as saying I like, is this:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classifi...agen?logcode=p

clf · 4th January 2015, 00:36

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Originally Posted by bikerdude666

Hill start seems like an invention to a problem that never used to exist though. Fit a proper handbrake that you can release slowly as you find the biting point and you don't need electronic gizmos to hold it for you. Seems like its just more to go wrong.

I know 1 day I'll have to have a car with this, but with how sensors etc can just break suddenly, I'd always be slightly worried part of the electronic handbrake may just brake locking it on while driving down the motorway....

As for the insignia, I've never been in 1, but the styling is slightly more inspiring than the mundano. Personally think it looks very similar to the MG6, which, if MG keep a presence in the UK long enough, will probably be my next car.

just ask a by passat owner about electric handbrakes

James.uk · 4th January 2015, 03:31

My friend Jean has an 07 1.4 Nissan auto Spirita, and I quite like it,

but will prob go for a big Skoda saloon should I even need another car...

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bradley · 4th January 2015, 11:18

got to say considering our cars are getting on they are still hard to beat,can you imagine if the company was still going there would possibly be a coupe which i think we all liked and who knows what they would have on them now ,i cant think of one but has any other cars have an electric blind ,or a shape of a car that a lot of people love.

3rd January 2015, 22:12	#34
Avora Loves to post MG ZT-T 190 Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Penrith Posts: 441 Thanks: 89 Thanked 69 Times in 56 Posts	There isn't much excuse for not keeping water out of connectors nowadays. Of course, cost is the driving dark force. You'll find many more mechanical items fail on anything than the electronics. Most electronics are blamed when a mechanical failure of some sort occurs, relays or seals etc. Don't forget the engineering time and safety considerations put in to any product made today. Our cars certain got a good going over. I'd have a Monaro, or maybe an Omega V6 for cheap. My brother had a cheap one for a while, good fun and plenty of similarities. __________________ ZT-T 190

3rd January 2015, 22:34	#36
Graham1961 Moderator / RS East Scotland Rover 75 1.8 Conn Se saloon Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: North Berwick, East Lothian Posts: 4,738 Thanks: 4,143 Thanked 753 Times in 563 Posts	I like the look of the Insignia, stylish and the interior looks very inviting. It's better looking than the Mondeo (I think) but from what I have read doesn't drive quite as well as the Ford. __________________ Graham.

3rd January 2015, 22:10	#33
Zafonic Banned Rover 75 Conni cdt 160 Join Date: May 2012 Location: CHESTERFIELD Posts: 1,691 Thanks: 310 Thanked 110 Times in 90 Posts	Eiwwwww they are pig ugly!! The new Mondeo is a world apart IMHO

3rd January 2015, 22:15	#35
Frameside Avid contributor MG ZTT CDTI, MG ZT 180+ Sorts auto prototype. Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Milton Keynes Posts: 176 Thanks: 30 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts	read this tread with interest, all opinions are valid opinions of course. I had a diesel insignia estate for about 4 weeks when the 520 d was being straightened out. it was a very good car in all respects and compares well ( in my opinion) to ZT cdti.maybe the engine was a bit more harsh, but the cabin refinements were far superior. No sure I would want one for the 30 to 40k of business miles I do each year hence a 520 -(which is soon to be replaced by an A6 Avant diesel) sits next to the MGs on the drive. A

3rd January 2015, 23:39	#37
bikerdude666 Posted a thing or two Jaguar Xe diseasal Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Little Stanion, Corby Posts: 1,922 Thanks: 363 Thanked 390 Times in 241 Posts	After reading this thread I've just spent a bit of time on autotrader looking at cars that are out of my price range now, but that I could afford in a few years. So far the only thing that has an interior I could go as far as saying I like, is this: http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classifi...agen?logcode=p

4th January 2015, 03:31	#39
James.uk Passed Away 2002 Pale Blue. Rover 75 CDTi Connoisseur auto. 170K miles Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Near the M67. Posts: 14,509 Thanks: 199 Thanked 585 Times in 397 Posts	My friend Jean has an 07 1.4 Nissan auto Spirita, and I quite like it, but will prob go for a big Skoda saloon should I even need another car... ...

4th January 2015, 11:18	#40
bradley Loves to post rover75 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Aberdare Posts: 267 Thanks: 171 Thanked 35 Times in 28 Posts	got to say considering our cars are getting on they are still hard to beat,can you imagine if the company was still going there would possibly be a coupe which i think we all liked and who knows what they would have on them now ,i cant think of one but has any other cars have an electric blind ,or a shape of a car that a lot of people love.