Electric cars, a different view?

stocktake · 9th December 2018, 09:26

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfTi..._YD9l-ynSI93JA

Jim Jamieson · 9th December 2018, 10:21

Whilst I agree electric cars are going to be the car of the future, one thing that doesn’t get mentioned is the servicing of these electric cars.

Auto Express highlight this from figures supplied by IMI Institute of the Motor Industry that there is a serious shortfall in qualified mechanics to carry out this work. The figures are quite shocking as they say only 3% are qualified.

I can foresee repair work being held up and costs rocketing way above that of current mainstream dealerships.

Food for thought !

sworks · 9th December 2018, 19:07

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Originally Posted by Jim Jamieson

Whilst I agree electric cars are going to be the car of the future, one thing that doesn’t get mentioned is the servicing of these electric cars.

Auto Express highlight this from figures supplied by IMI Institute of the Motor Industry that there is a serious shortfall in qualified mechanics to carry out this work. The figures are quite shocking as they say only 3% are qualified.

I can foresee repair work being held up and costs rocketing way above that of current mainstream dealerships.

Food for thought !

I’m not sure I agree with just 3% of techs being qualified but it won’t be a high figure. There are no rules that I’m aware off that garages have to have an EV qualified tech, however, most manufacturers that have hybrid or EV models will dictate that one of the standards for its dealer network will be that they have at least 1 EV trained tech. The brand I work on state that the highest trained tech in each of its dealers must complete and pass the IMI qualification as part of dealer standards.

trikey · 9th December 2018, 10:50

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Originally Posted by Jim Jamieson

The figures are quite shocking !

I see what you did there 🤣

macafee2 · 9th December 2018, 11:07

Alas it is like a lot of things, what is true?
How long will it be before an electric car is equal to a petrol/diesel car?
Range at speed and recharging time seem to be their stumbling block at the moment

What I had not considered is the industry behind making petrol and diesel, what will happen to that?

macafee2

AndyN01 · 9th December 2018, 11:14

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What I had not considered is the industry behind making petrol and diesel, what will happen to that?.......

Presumably the same as happens to any other industry where technological advancements render it obsolete - it vanishes except for a very small, dedicated and specialised group of enthusiasts.

Steam locomotives/traction engines or typewriters anyone.....

The knock on effects for the overall economy are, I'd hazard a guess, potentially rather large.

Andy.

Lovel · 9th December 2018, 11:34

Always liked Robert Llewelyn since his early days in scrapyard challenge. The video is intelligently made and exposes the likes of topgear et all.
However the same fate will befall lithium or other resources, whether it will be wars, political shenanigans leading to scarcity.
Until the human race accepts that population growth is acceptable and consumerism ends we are are a one way ticket to depletion of all these resources and more wars over these finite resources. Still once we are gone at least the world will have a rest for a few billion years before some other form manifest itself.

bl52krz · 9th December 2018, 12:53

Lets hurry up and get to Mars. I have it on good authority that there is plenty of everything there. Do they realise the humans are coming I ask myself.Lithium, from what I have read, is a very short life material. And is still in short supply. In its basic form it is like platinum,expensive.It can be extracted from sea water, but very expensively. And just to top it off, where is all the electric coming from to charge millions of batteries up? We only have to have a bit of a cold spell and the authorities tell us to cut back on consumption because we can not generate enough.

Greeners · 9th December 2018, 13:10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdDi1haA71Q

Lovel · 9th December 2018, 16:25

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Originally Posted by Greeners

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdDi1haA71Q

A sign of things to come, however plenty fuel fires out ther too I would suggest.

BBC radio Sally travel announcements that will become normal, car abandoned and x mile tailback due to flat battery. It’s human nature. I find it hard to keep my iPhone charged never mind a car.

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Jim Jamieson This is my second home Rover less ! Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Tarbolton Posts: 3,442 Thanks: 393 Thanked 888 Times in 542 Posts	Whilst I agree electric cars are going to be the car of the future, one thing that doesn’t get mentioned is the servicing of these electric cars. Auto Express highlight this from figures supplied by IMI Institute of the Motor Industry that there is a serious shortfall in qualified mechanics to carry out this work. The figures are quite shocking as they say only 3% are qualified. I can foresee repair work being held up and costs rocketing way above that of current mainstream dealerships. Food for thought !

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macafee2 This is my second home Rover 75 Saloon & Tourer Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Lincoln Posts: 14,928 Thanks: 1,630 Thanked 3,032 Times in 2,181 Posts	Alas it is like a lot of things, what is true? How long will it be before an electric car is equal to a petrol/diesel car? Range at speed and recharging time seem to be their stumbling block at the moment What I had not considered is the industry behind making petrol and diesel, what will happen to that? macafee2

9th December 2018, 11:14	#6
AndyN01 This is my second home Toyota RAV4 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Tamworth Posts: 3,076 Thanks: 2,478 Thanked 1,579 Times in 968 Posts	....... What I had not considered is the industry behind making petrol and diesel, what will happen to that?....... Presumably the same as happens to any other industry where technological advancements render it obsolete - it vanishes except for a very small, dedicated and specialised group of enthusiasts. Steam locomotives/traction engines or typewriters anyone..... The knock on effects for the overall economy are, I'd hazard a guess, potentially rather large. Andy.