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Old 4th October 2007, 22:30   #11
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Can't be certain but the front passenger door lookes as though it has been painted as it looks a little darker shade.

That is an SMC Slough number plate & they were selling them at around £19 to £20K new last year.
your right andy definately a different colour
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Old 4th October 2007, 23:09   #12
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Think the important words are:

This will be a no-reserve auction - please watch

Just below the main heading. In other words its not an auction yet - just whetting your appetite I suppose.

You wernt thinking of buying for the spare parts were you Les??
I do on occasion pay toooo much for cars to dismantle but not that much!, nice looking car though
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Old 5th October 2007, 03:09   #13
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Looks brilliant. The Star alloys really suit the car.
Think I'm changing my mind about the premium grill.
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Old 5th October 2007, 19:36   #14
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Default To e-bay or not to e-bay?

There's a nice blue V8 in SMC with 16k miles for £15,495 with warranty and no shill bidding.

Couple other V8's too on Autotrader around the £14.5k - £15k mark. So, if the one on e-bay is a genuine "no reserve" auction, it shouldn't go for anywhere near dealer prices. £10k-£12k tops?

In the past they start off with bids on day one, but have changed their tactics of late to listing with £20k figure and then open the bidding after a day or two. Bidding starts straight away and pushes the price up to an attractive level on roughly day 3 or 4. Goes quiet for a while and then pushed up near the end to what they are willing to let it go for. Early bidders rarely win if ever. Also, look at the bidders history and you will see they bid on lots of different cars but never win any auctions. Make up your own mind.

In fairness though, cars seem good. It's the honesty of the "auction" process that grips. Plenty of other posts on the Rover Forum ref this.

Anyone know more about it's history? Not sure about the different colour doors too.
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Old 5th October 2007, 19:40   #15
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I have seen the blue one at SMC's for £15k but it's just to dear for me maybe next year I'll get one.
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Old 6th October 2007, 11:13   #16
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Default Shill bidding???

Just to confirm my suspicions as mentioned before. Have a look at "sellers other items" and in particular the Toyota Celica (+ others) that they are selling.

Here's the histroy of Bidder 1 & 3 for instance. Errr...what do you reckon?

Bidder 1
Item 1 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > BMW 2 Seller 1 6d 12h
Item 2 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Toyota 2 Seller 1 6d 12h
Item 3 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Mercedes-Benz 1 Seller 1 1d 5h
Item 4 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Volkswagen 2 Seller 2 4d 11h
Item 5 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Mercedes-Benz 2 Seller 3 1h
Item 6 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > BMW 1 Seller 4 14h
Item 7 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Vauxhall & Opel 2 Seller 5 1d 8h
Item 8 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Mercedes-Benz 2 Seller 6 10h
Item 9 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Honda 2 Seller 7 19h
Item 10 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > BMW 3 Seller 8 2h
Item 11 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > BMW 2 Seller 9 6h
Item 12 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > BMW 2 Seller 10 5h
Item 13 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > BMW 2 Seller 11 4d 7h
Item 14 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > BMW 2 Seller 12 2d 9h
Item 15 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > BMW 2 Seller 13 2d 8h
Item 16 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Toyota 1 Seller 14 6d 10h
Item 17 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > BMW 2 Seller 15 4d 19h

Bidder 3Item 1 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Audi 3 Seller 1 9h
Item 2 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Peugeot 1 Seller 2 6d 2h
Item 3 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Toyota 1 Seller 3 6d 2h
Item 4 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Audi 1 Seller 4 1d 5h
Item 5 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Jaguar 1 Seller 2 6h
Item 6 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Audi 1 Seller 1 <1h
Item 7 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Audi 1 Seller 5 4d 21h
Item 8 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Audi 1 Seller 2 <1h
Item 9 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Audi 1 Seller 6 1h
Item 10 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Audi 1 Seller 7 1d 22h
Item 11 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Rover/ MG 1 Seller 8 2d 9h
Item 12 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Volkswagen 1 Seller 9 5h
Item 13 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Audi 1 Seller 10 <1h
Item 14 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Volkswagen 1 Seller 2 2d 1h
Item 15 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Audi 1 Seller 11 4d 22h

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Old 6th October 2007, 11:15   #17
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Default BMW 320d bidding

Same on the BMW. Isn't amazing how many things (cars mainly) these people bid on but never seem to win?

Must be just unlucky bidders or am I being stupid here??? (don't answer that)

Bidder 1
Item 1 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > BMW 2 Seller 1 6d 12h
Item 2 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Toyota 2 Seller 1 6d 12h
Item 3 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Mercedes-Benz 1 Seller 1 1d 5h
Item 4 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Volkswagen 2 Seller 2 4d 11h
Item 5 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Mercedes-Benz 2 Seller 3 1h
Item 6 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > BMW 1 Seller 4 14h
Item 7 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Vauxhall & Opel 2 Seller 5 1d 8h
Item 8 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Mercedes-Benz 2 Seller 6 10h
Item 9 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Honda 2 Seller 7 19h
Item 10 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > BMW 3 Seller 8 2h
Item 11 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > BMW 2 Seller 9 6h
Item 12 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > BMW 2 Seller 10 5h
Item 13 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > BMW 2 Seller 11 4d 7h
Item 14 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > BMW 2 Seller 12 2d 9h
Item 15 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > BMW 2 Seller 13 2d 8h
Item 16 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Toyota 1 Seller 14 6d 10h
Item 17 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > BMW 2 Seller 15 4d 19h

Bidder 2
Item 1 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > BMW 1 Seller 1 6d 8h
Item 2 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Vauxhall & Opel 2 Seller 2 <1h
Item 3 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Mercedes-Benz 4 Seller 3 4h
Item 4 Jewellery & Watches > Watches > Wristwatches 2 Seller 4 4d 22h
Item 5 Jewellery & Watches > Watches > Wristwatches 1 Seller 5 <1h
Item 6 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Renault 1 Seller 6 6d 19h
Item 7 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Renault 1 Seller 7 3d 11h
Item 8 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Renault 2 Seller 8 1d
Item 9 Consumer Electronics > MP3 Players 1 Seller 9 3d 23h
Item 10 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Renault 1 Seller 10 <1h
Item 11 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Volkswagen 1 Seller 11 11h
Item 12 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Renault 1 Seller 6 6d 17h
Item 13 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Mercedes-Benz 1 Seller 12 4d 22h
Item 14 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Mercedes-Benz 2 Seller 12 21h
Item 15 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Mercedes-Benz 1 Seller 13 9d 22h
Item 16 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Mercedes-Benz 5 Seller 14 <1h
Item 17 3 Seller 15 <1h
Item 18 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Renault 1 Seller 10 7d 9h
Item 19 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Mercedes-Benz 2 Seller 16 7d 15h

Bidder 5
Item 1 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > BMW 1 Seller 1 6d 21h
Item 2 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > BMW 1 Seller 2 5d 22h
Item 3 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Audi 1 Seller 3 5d 19h
Item 4 DVD, Film & TV > DVDs 1 Seller 4 20h
Item 5 DVD, Film & TV > DVDs 1 Seller 5 4d
Item 6 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Volkswagen 1 Seller 6 2d 19h
Item 7 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Volkswagen 1 Seller 7 6d 19h
Item 8 Musical Instruments > Guitars > Electric 1 Seller 8 4d
Item 9 DVD, Film & TV > DVDs 1 Seller 9 2d 4h
Item 10 DVD, Film & TV > DVDs 2 Seller 10 22h
Item 11 DVD, Film & TV > DVDs 2 Seller 11 8d 5h
Item 12 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Honda 1 Seller 12 1d 19h
Item 13 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Mercedes-Benz 1 Seller 12 20h
Item 14 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Audi 2 Seller 12 20h
Item 15 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Audi 2 Seller 12 21h
Item 16 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > BMW 2 Seller 12 21h
Item 17 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Volkswagen 3 Seller 13 1h
Item 18 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Audi 3 Seller 14 2h
Item 19 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Chrysler 3 Seller 15 2h
Item 20 DVD, Film & TV > DVDs 4 Seller 16 <1h
Item 21 DVD, Film & TV > DVDs 1 Seller 17 16h
Item 22 DVD, Film & TV > DVDs 3 Seller 18 2d 14h
Item 23 DVD, Film & TV > DVDs 1 Seller 19 6d 14h
Item 24 DVD, Film & TV > DVDs 1 Seller 20 3d 13h
Item 25 DVD, Film & TV > DVDs 1 Seller 21 4d 21h
Item 26 DVD, Film & TV > DVDs 1 Seller 22 11h
Item 27 DVD, Film & TV > DVDs 1 Seller 23 3d 10h
Item 28 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Land Rover/ Range Rover 2 Seller 24 21h
Item 29 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Isuzu 1 Seller 25 1d 11h
Item 30 Cars, Parts & Vehicles > Cars > Audi 3 Seller 26 2d 10h

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Old 6th October 2007, 11:20   #18
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Default Shill Bidding?? - E-bay.

I have watched these people (and others) operate on E-bay for a couple of years (at least) and their routine is always the same, plus their bidders history has to be called into question.

It's not in E-bays interest to stop it, of course, but doesn't it smack of "unfairness"?

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Old 6th October 2007, 15:59   #19
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Default Shill Bidding

So..bidding has opened and the auction is theoretically on day one of a 6 day auction.

Apparently, there are so many people out there desperate to get this V8 that there have been 14 bids from 8 different bidders within only a few hours of the auction opening and over 5 days still to go. All this activity on the basis of a sparse advert that's not even complete yet! Who are these people trying to kid?

As any seasoned E-bay seller will have experienced, this just does not happen in the "real world".

Bid is already up to £7300.

I predict that the price will edge up a bit from here and then there will be a lull for a day or two at what seems to be an attractibve price (£8k-£9K?). It will then be "pushed up" again near the end.

Watch and learn!

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Old 6th October 2007, 16:19   #20
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Well I've stopped bidding on it now as Shill bidders get my Goat!
I'll get one from SMC instead.
Its because I wanted Silver of course.
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