Electrical nightmare ?

poiterbb · 28th July 2018, 11:20

Can anyone help a battling aussie with his rover75 se conisseur KV6 problem ?.if anyone cand offer advice on the following i would be eternally grateful .As follows.
about 7 months ago the battery died whilst out and about a jump start was given and i think the ecu decided to pass away !,it went to a workshop where it was advised that they knew rovers and had a t4 ,this now brings us to the present day,! the car has been returned with the following.
the instrument panel has been swapped with an english one with MPH .
the car starts in gear !.
reversing sensors dont work.
head unit showing words "ERR".
doors dont lock when car is started.
lower fog lights dont work.
rear window heater dont work.
head unit only displays GPS no trip computer ,fuel consumption ,etc.
As we have strict gun laws here i cannot shoot myself,so i am pleading with any member who can offer me some guidance so i can get my beloved rover back!!.
Thank you ,Thank you.
poiterbb.

Yorkshire GOC · 28th July 2018, 13:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by poiterbb

Can anyone help a battling aussie with his rover75 se conisseur KV6 problem ?.if anyone cand offer advice on the following i would be eternally grateful .As follows.
about 7 months ago the battery died whilst out and about a jump start was given and i think the ecu decided to pass away !,it went to a workshop where it was advised that they knew rovers and had a t4 ,this now brings us to the present day,! the car has been returned with the following.
the instrument panel has been swapped with an english one with MPH .
the car starts in gear !.
reversing sensors dont work.
head unit showing words "ERR".
doors dont lock when car is started.
lower fog lights dont work.
rear window heater dont work.
head unit only displays GPS no trip computer ,fuel consumption ,etc.
As we have strict gun laws here i cannot shoot myself,so i am pleading with any member who can offer me some guidance so i can get my beloved rover back!!.
Thank you ,Thank you.
poiterbb.

ERR is a classic ECU failure message and coupled with all your symptoms your ECU is goosed - when you flattened your battery did you keep trying to start her - doing this repeatedly can damage your ECU. You need an ECU expert on this site- so i would advise you to drop Marinabrian a PM - he is the expert par excellence for ECU problems. If you send him your ECU he will diagnose the problem and provide a replacement if required - which sounds the case in your situation.

stevestrat · 28th July 2018, 15:33

You said you suspected the original ECU had been damaged by an attempted jump start, did the workshop replace the ECU? If so I suspect they stuck one in without virginising it then reconfiguring using the settings from the original.

As Martin suggested above, Brian (marinabrian) is the man to speak to.

klarzy · 28th July 2018, 16:44

sounds a lot like they have replaced all of the ecu's and security bits with items from a scrapped manual car....

If you needed a new ECU for the engine alone then you would need a virginised one for them to install it with T4 and AFAIK there are only 3 folks who can do that and they are all on this forum....

The common approach when an ecu is screwed is to replace the coded bits en-mass and it looks like this has been done but the appropriate ZCS coding and matching is missing...

Take it back and get them to put all your original bity back in and send the engine ECU to Marinabrian by post for sorting...

poiterbb · 29th July 2018, 10:58

Thanks guys for your advice and help .how do i get in touch with marinabrian?.
poiterbb.

genpk · 29th July 2018, 11:15

As mentioned, Marinabrian is the guy who knows and can re program all the bits and gas extensive knowledge re this stuff.
Unfortunately he is in the UK so posting ecu etc is the only way.
You may be able to buy a complete set of modules out of one car, a
Ecu,bcu,ews and instrument cluster.
You will still need to program your keys into the bcu but can do that using the Toaf program which can switch options on and off in your car.
Instrument cluster can be taken apart and change the back panel to your km
one from the old unit.
As mentioned, i would get all the old items back and work forward from there.
Once refitted, post the issues up on here and the good learned people on this
forum will help you!!!

Yorkshire GOC · 29th July 2018, 14:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by poiterbb

Thanks guys for your advice and help .how do i get in touch with marinabrian?.
poiterbb.

Go into the priviate message(PM) area of the site and send him a PM look for the tab "New Message" - type his name into the recipient field - enter your message and submit .

poiterbb · 31st July 2018, 13:20

Hi. poiterbb again . you mention toaf ?? im sorry i dont know what that is .

stevestrat · 31st July 2018, 14:18

TOAF is (free) downloadable software that was developed by some Polish guys that does a lot of what a T4 does but there are some banana skins in it where if you click the wrong thing it will cause problems!

Click HERE to open private message to Brian.

trikey · 31st July 2018, 21:31

Do you have your original ecu, immobiliser, key chip etc. It would be far easier to put it all back to how it was and have marinabrian sort the problem with your original ecu.

28th July 2018, 11:20	#1
poiterbb Regular poster Rover 75 connossieur SE Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Redlands Posts: 30 Thanks: 5 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Electrical nightmare ? Can anyone help a battling aussie with his rover75 se conisseur KV6 problem ?.if anyone cand offer advice on the following i would be eternally grateful .As follows. about 7 months ago the battery died whilst out and about a jump start was given and i think the ecu decided to pass away !,it went to a workshop where it was advised that they knew rovers and had a t4 ,this now brings us to the present day,! the car has been returned with the following. the instrument panel has been swapped with an english one with MPH . the car starts in gear !. reversing sensors dont work. head unit showing words "ERR". doors dont lock when car is started. lower fog lights dont work. rear window heater dont work. head unit only displays GPS no trip computer ,fuel consumption ,etc. As we have strict gun laws here i cannot shoot myself,so i am pleading with any member who can offer me some guidance so i can get my beloved rover back!!. Thank you ,Thank you. poiterbb.

28th July 2018, 15:33	#3
stevestrat This is my second home ZT260 #243 (resting) Join Date: May 2010 Location: Prestonpans Posts: 22,462 Thanks: 650 Thanked 4,624 Times in 3,358 Posts	You said you suspected the original ECU had been damaged by an attempted jump start, did the workshop replace the ECU? If so I suspect they stuck one in without virginising it then reconfiguring using the settings from the original. As Martin suggested above, Brian (marinabrian) is the man to speak to. __________________ Steve T4 Location Map

28th July 2018, 16:44	#4
klarzy This is my second home none but not gone Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: March, Cambs Posts: 16,437 Thanks: 894 Thanked 4,247 Times in 3,025 Posts	sounds a lot like they have replaced all of the ecu's and security bits with items from a scrapped manual car.... If you needed a new ECU for the engine alone then you would need a virginised one for them to install it with T4 and AFAIK there are only 3 folks who can do that and they are all on this forum.... The common approach when an ecu is screwed is to replace the coded bits en-mass and it looks like this has been done but the appropriate ZCS coding and matching is missing... Take it back and get them to put all your original bity back in and send the engine ECU to Marinabrian by post for sorting... __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]….All praise Bananaswan….

29th July 2018, 10:58	#5
poiterbb Regular poster Rover 75 connossieur SE Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Redlands Posts: 30 Thanks: 5 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	electrical nightmare Thanks guys for your advice and help .how do i get in touch with marinabrian?. poiterbb.

31st July 2018, 13:20	#8
poiterbb Regular poster Rover 75 connossieur SE Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Redlands Posts: 30 Thanks: 5 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	electrical nightmare Hi. poiterbb again . you mention toaf ?? im sorry i dont know what that is .

29th July 2018, 11:15	#6
genpk Posted a thing or two Rover 75 Saloon MGZT Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Perth, AUSTRALIA Posts: 1,662 Thanks: 3 Thanked 461 Times in 299 Posts	As mentioned, Marinabrian is the guy who knows and can re program all the bits and gas extensive knowledge re this stuff. Unfortunately he is in the UK so posting ecu etc is the only way. You may be able to buy a complete set of modules out of one car, a Ecu,bcu,ews and instrument cluster. You will still need to program your keys into the bcu but can do that using the Toaf program which can switch options on and off in your car. Instrument cluster can be taken apart and change the back panel to your km one from the old unit. As mentioned, i would get all the old items back and work forward from there. Once refitted, post the issues up on here and the good learned people on this forum will help you!!!

31st July 2018, 14:18	#9
stevestrat This is my second home ZT260 #243 (resting) Join Date: May 2010 Location: Prestonpans Posts: 22,462 Thanks: 650 Thanked 4,624 Times in 3,358 Posts	TOAF is (free) downloadable software that was developed by some Polish guys that does a lot of what a T4 does but there are some banana skins in it where if you click the wrong thing it will cause problems! Click HERE to open private message to Brian. __________________ Steve T4 Location Map Last edited by stevestrat; 31st July 2018 at 14:21..

31st July 2018, 21:31	#10
trikey Premium Trader Rover 75 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Devon Posts: 33,763 Thanks: 8,837 Thanked 14,831 Times in 8,030 Posts	Do you have your original ecu, immobiliser, key chip etc. It would be far easier to put it all back to how it was and have marinabrian sort the problem with your original ecu.

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