Would you buy a heavy 4x4 for safety reasons - Page 12

stevestrat · 20th January 2019, 20:17

Nothing against 4x4s . . . . in their place. What the point of having one in the middle of a city is beyond me. I helped a mate out with his taxi business for a while, did a Council contract run to and from a school in the middle of Edinburgh. The number of huge 4x4s on the school run was ridiculous. Not just talking Range Rovers or Discoveries, there were Shoguns, Troopers, everything short of armoured personnel carriers

klarzy · 20th January 2019, 20:19

My 4x4 is comfortable, cheap and economical...
The traction gives confidence and the load carrying potential is very useful..

bl52krz · 20th January 2019, 21:15

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Originally Posted by Dallas

Yes I see your point Dave, there's no doubt that this type of 4x4 driver does think in that manner of wanting road presence to intimidate. I would like to think this was not the case, but it obviously does happen.

It goes without saying that this type of driver is amongst us daily, you can find them is all sorts of vehicles, small medium and large... posh or poor.

The world is a crazy place, and we are just a small part of it.

I bet you're glad you are no longer an HGV driver Dave?

You are not wrong ther Wes. My son works for a well known fuel company, as tanker driver. He is only in his 50s and can not wait to get away from the rat race it has become. Also I am still in touch with chaps I used to work with, and they say I would not recognise it all now with the idiots on the road. The things that happen to my son are unbelievable. Like he is delivering fuel and people smoking and on mobiles while he is delivering fuel when they are filling up,which is a definite no- no. Another thing is when people cut across the chevrons on the m/way to get onto another part of the m/way, and get that close to the front of his lorry, and make the auto braking act. Very dangerous when you have a full load of petrol on your back. So yes, I am glad I don’t drive for a living any longer. By the way, he said most are Mercedes or BMW and white van man, not 4x4s.lol

Dallas · 20th January 2019, 21:29

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Originally Posted by bl52krz

You are not wrong ther Wes. My son works for a well known fuel company, as tanker driver. He is only in his 50s and can not wait to get away from the rat race it has become. Also I am still in touch with chaps I used to work with, and they say I would not recognise it all now with the idiots on the road. The things that happen to my son are unbelievable. Like he is delivering fuel and people smoking and on mobiles while he is delivering fuel when they are filling up,which is a definite no- no. Another thing is when people cut across the chevrons on the m/way to get onto another part of the m/way, and get that close to the front of his lorry, and make the auto braking act. Very dangerous when you have a full load of petrol on your back. So yes, I am glad I don’t drive for a living any longer. By the way, he said most are Mercedes or BMW and white van man, not 4x4s.lol

Driving for a living in this modern fast paced life we all have now, you lot deserve a medal. To be on the roads all day, everyday would equal double pay in my book.

Mr Bone · 21st January 2019, 05:18

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Originally Posted by stevestrat

Nothing against 4x4s . . . . in their place. What the point of having one in the middle of a city is beyond me. I helped a mate out with his taxi business for a while, did a Council contract run to and from a school in the middle of Edinburgh. The number of huge 4x4s on the school run was ridiculous. Not just talking Range Rovers or Discoveries, there were Shoguns, Troopers, everything short of armoured personnel carriers

The size of a 4x4 is usually misconceived, for example a lwb shogun is 37mm longer than a mondeo estate but its also 46mm narrower, so the overall space it takes up is less, especially in a car park where width is the main issue. The shogun is taller though, and this must be the factor that causes so much ill feeling, but then it's not as tall as the vast majority of vans.

Now this confuses me, it's illogical, and leads me to the conclusion that all this ill feeling is based on 'that car is bigger than mine'.

Blimey.

Darcydog · 21st January 2019, 07:47

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Originally Posted by Mr Bone

The size of a 4x4 is usually misconceived, for example a lwb shogun is 37mm longer than a mondeo estate but its also 46mm narrower, so the overall space it takes up is less, especially in a car park where width is the main issue. The shogun is taller though, and this must be the factor that causes so much ill feeling, but then it's not as tall as the vast majority of vans.

Now this confuses me, it's illogical, and leads me to the conclusion that all this ill feeling is based on 'that car is bigger than mine'.

Blimey.

Well said!!!

And of course the likes of a Ford Galaxy et al are perfectly acceptable to the anti 4x4 muppets -

Dallas · 21st January 2019, 08:05

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Originally Posted by Darcydog

Well said!!!

And of course the likes of a Ford Galaxy et al are perfectly acceptable to the anti 4x4 muppets -

I've had a few of them over the years too Clive, started with the MK1 and then moved to the MK2 Gal.

One of the best MPV's around at the time, the only thing Ford about them though was the 2.3 DOHC petrol engine, and the most obvious Ford dash/interior, everything else was VW.

klarzy · 21st January 2019, 19:32

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZbQ3lTObas

Comfortably Numb · 21st January 2019, 22:08

I regularly meet 4x4 drivers on the country roads and lanes where I live. Farmers in 4x4s tend to move over, if need be onto the verge, to let me pass in the Rover, and often in my 4x4. But "offcomers" in Chelsea tractors (blingy models with road tyres and side steps etc.) tend to be more bullying and inconsiderate. Unless they meet me in my 4x4. I will always move right over onto the verge, if necessary,for a 2wd car when driving the 4x4. But when I meet a 4x4, I expect them to put 2 wheels on the verge if I have to. As others have said, what is the point if you are not going to use it? I was with my daughter in her Polo, and a Freelander came bowling along the lane towards us, and past a passing place on his side. I told my daughter to just stop, on the road, but she paniced, put 2 wheels on the verge, and bogged. The Freelander slowed right down, and gingerly drove past us with 2 wheels on the opposite verge. I had to hitch a lift home, and get out my 4x4 to get my daughter's car un-stuck!

Dorset Bob · 21st January 2019, 23:41

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Originally Posted by klarzy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZbQ3lTObas

I quite liked the hitchhiker, until I spotted the P6.

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21st January 2019, 22:08	#119
Comfortably Numb Posted a thing or two Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Penrith Posts: 1,336 Thanks: 165 Thanked 303 Times in 241 Posts	I regularly meet 4x4 drivers on the country roads and lanes where I live. Farmers in 4x4s tend to move over, if need be onto the verge, to let me pass in the Rover, and often in my 4x4. But "offcomers" in Chelsea tractors (blingy models with road tyres and side steps etc.) tend to be more bullying and inconsiderate. Unless they meet me in my 4x4. I will always move right over onto the verge, if necessary,for a 2wd car when driving the 4x4. But when I meet a 4x4, I expect them to put 2 wheels on the verge if I have to. As others have said, what is the point if you are not going to use it? I was with my daughter in her Polo, and a Freelander came bowling along the lane towards us, and past a passing place on his side. I told my daughter to just stop, on the road, but she paniced, put 2 wheels on the verge, and bogged. The Freelander slowed right down, and gingerly drove past us with 2 wheels on the opposite verge. I had to hitch a lift home, and get out my 4x4 to get my daughter's car un-stuck!