Greta Thunberg

roverbarmy · 24th September 2019, 08:00

Setting aside that there could be a lot of "manipulation" going on here, a powerful and moving speech!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pQiCew4P34

Look out world, you are being watched by the kids.

steve-45 · 24th September 2019, 08:54

I still wonder how many of the generation us oldies are destroying will still want the latest electronic gizmos this Christmas regardless of the pollution their manufacturing creates ?

RPWC · 24th September 2019, 09:12

Climate change is all down to motorinf and air travel, nothing else. Lets as a government tax the motorists, haulage companies and bus operators to the hilt. Along with anyone daring to travel abroad.

wraymond · 24th September 2019, 11:28

On the underlying topic the statistics are far from credible and are based on the negative viewpoints of commentators who see themselves as saviours.

Targets for any remedy are nations - not individuals - and they will not change to any meaningful degree, nor even listen.

On the performance of the speaker in support of radical change it was a moving and impressive delivery. If her words were her own she is a present and future field leader but I suspect her youth and passion has been harnessed by her elders. Even so, a remarkable and creditworthy performance.

Number 6 · 2nd October 2019, 15:49

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Originally Posted by wraymond

On the underlying topic the statistics are far from credible and are based on the negative viewpoints of commentators who see themselves as saviours.

Targets for any remedy are nations - not individuals - and they will not change to any meaningful degree, nor even listen.

On the performance of the speaker in support of radical change it was a moving and impressive delivery. If her words were her own she is a present and future field leader but I suspect her youth and passion has been harnessed by her elders. Even so, a remarkable and creditworthy performance.

And that is what it was A PERFORMANCE

wraymond · 3rd October 2019, 12:43

I can't help noticing that their cause has now been conflated, or at least loosely associated, with a 'new age' diagnosis of a behavioural abnormality.

I think it might just have the reverse effect for both messages to suffer - both the environment and the condition. That, just in my view, is an unnecessary and unhelpful twist. In fact, a cynical twist. "The Environment" has become a hive of wannabees (sic) drawn from all quarters - some not so altruistic or desirable.

WillyHeckaslike · 24th September 2019, 15:29

I was more worried than impressed and not about the weather ... it is honking down here atm. It did not look or sound at all normal to me and I could not help but feel that if anything has been stolen from her then it is definitely her childhood and not her dreams. But as for who was responsible for the theft I would not place money on social services blaming the rest of the world.

KWIL · 24th September 2019, 15:42

Around 1/4 of all global warming gases are from China, now the workshop of the world, just like we used to be at the start of the Industrial Revolution.

We can only hope to set an example, whatever we (UK) do will not make much difference overall.

Expectation of an ever expanding economy, production and trade works against the principle of a sustainable future.Too many products too many people.

suzublu · 24th September 2019, 18:21

steve-45 · 24th September 2019, 22:52

Just found a chart that gives CO2 emissions by country, China was 27.4% and the UK stands at 1.1%.

Strange there were no climate change protests in China.

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roverbarmy This is my second home Roverless + 1.7D Sportage Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: East Norfolk Posts: 7,050 Thanks: 729 Thanked 2,021 Times in 1,449 Posts	Greta Thunberg Setting aside that there could be a lot of "manipulation" going on here, a powerful and moving speech! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pQiCew4P34 Look out world, you are being watched by the kids. __________________ Oil in my veins!

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RPWC This is my second home 75 model car Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 20,176 Thanks: 4,008 Thanked 5,083 Times in 3,114 Posts	Climate change is all down to motorinf and air travel, nothing else. Lets as a government tax the motorists, haulage companies and bus operators to the hilt. Along with anyone daring to travel abroad. __________________ Cheers. Rich…

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wraymond This is my second home 75 Auto 2.5 SE Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Westcliff on Sea Posts: 5,185 Thanks: 423 Thanked 1,680 Times in 1,014 Posts	On the underlying topic the statistics are far from credible and are based on the negative viewpoints of commentators who see themselves as saviours. Targets for any remedy are nations - not individuals - and they will not change to any meaningful degree, nor even listen. On the performance of the speaker in support of radical change it was a moving and impressive delivery. If her words were her own she is a present and future field leader but I suspect her youth and passion has been harnessed by her elders. Even so, a remarkable and creditworthy performance. __________________ member no. 235

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wraymond This is my second home 75 Auto 2.5 SE Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Westcliff on Sea Posts: 5,185 Thanks: 423 Thanked 1,680 Times in 1,014 Posts	I can't help noticing that their cause has now been conflated, or at least loosely associated, with a 'new age' diagnosis of a behavioural abnormality. I think it might just have the reverse effect for both messages to suffer - both the environment and the condition. That, just in my view, is an unnecessary and unhelpful twist. In fact, a cynical twist. "The Environment" has become a hive of wannabees (sic) drawn from all quarters - some not so altruistic or desirable. __________________ member no. 235

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24th September 2019, 08:54	#2
steve-45 This is my second home Rover 75 Saloon CDTi Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Belvedere Posts: 4,076 Thanks: 108 Thanked 1,089 Times in 774 Posts	I still wonder how many of the generation us oldies are destroying will still want the latest electronic gizmos this Christmas regardless of the pollution their manufacturing creates ?

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WillyHeckaslike This is my second home Rovers 75 & 25 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Wearside Posts: 4,519 Thanks: 543 Thanked 709 Times in 511 Posts	I was more worried than impressed and not about the weather ... it is honking down here atm. It did not look or sound at all normal to me and I could not help but feel that if anything has been stolen from her then it is definitely her childhood and not her dreams. But as for who was responsible for the theft I would not place money on social services blaming the rest of the world.

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steve-45 This is my second home Rover 75 Saloon CDTi Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Belvedere Posts: 4,076 Thanks: 108 Thanked 1,089 Times in 774 Posts	Just found a chart that gives CO2 emissions by country, China was 27.4% and the UK stands at 1.1%. Strange there were no climate change protests in China.