Retrofiting OEM PDC - Page 7

SKS Disco · 13th May 2009, 22:10

Just my 2 pence worth but it is worth remembering that both PDC and PDC sounder are part of the ZCS code sequence in the SA string.

IE. it tells the BCU they are fitted. If the signal is going through the BCU it does not know where to send it via the KBus if they are not included.
Maybe this is only for OE fit though

Greeners · 14th May 2009, 07:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPart02

Just my 2 pence worth but it is worth remembering that both PDC and PDC sounder are part of the ZCS code sequence in the SA string.

IE. it tells the BCU they are fitted. If the signal is going through the BCU it does not know where to send it via the KBus if they are not included.
Maybe this is only for OE fit though

Ah.......I suspect that's Lates problem then....

Lates · 14th May 2009, 09:14

I suspect the vehicle needs to have the correct parts fitted prior to carrying out further fault finding.

Greeners · 14th May 2009, 10:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lates

I suspect the vehicle needs to have the correct parts fitted prior to carrying out further fault finding.

Lates....you coud try fitting the external sounder first just to prove the system works first, before venturing down the coding route.

The sounder is on pins 2 and 8 if that helps.

Lates · 14th May 2009, 11:41

My dealer has none of the forms that are required to be filled in to generate zcs codes. However I do have an alternate method being planned and my zcs codes can be reverse engineered

The vehicle will have the correct parts fitted first, in the event of the system still not working,lets be honest is pretty likely, I have a spare black multiplug I can fit with sounder and yes it will work but not in an OE kind of way.

Question is Dave, how did you retrofit and all worked ok ?

Departed · 14th May 2009, 12:02

I retrofitted OE too.

Worked fine on the kitchen worktop so just installed it.

With the speakers: I'm pretty sure the impedance needs to be right. I tried one speaker and just got ticking. Tried a second and it worked fine.

In the car its A1, but testbook won't talk to it even though it's on kbus.

I suspect that the vehicle config info is used mostly by testbook to decide what it shouold and should not be talking to. PDC Cruise and lo nav are all fitted but there's no option to diagnose them on testbook.

Do we have a way of determining the codes if items are fitted? I remember some discussion a while back but it seemed to go quiet....

Greeners · 14th May 2009, 15:28

When I did my saloon, it was OEM with sounder under rear shelf....worked at the second attempt.

For the ZTT, I'm going to repeat the exercise, and put the sounder in the loadspace are RHS.......

Lates · 15th May 2009, 15:46

Later spec PDC ecu fitted and all is well

Anybody need an old spec type with separate sounder

StevenWilliams · 15th May 2009, 17:48

I had no idea there were dirrerent types.

I'm about to install a second set on the front and have it seperatly triggered (Not reversing gear).

Now I'm worried my PDC ECU is the wrong type.

13th May 2009, 22:10	#61
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14th May 2009, 15:28	#67
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15th May 2009, 17:48	#69
StevenWilliams This is my second home Rover 75 Saloon 2.5 V6 British Racing Green. 81,000 miles and counting Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Crawley, West Sussex Posts: 6,183 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	I had no idea there were dirrerent types. I'm about to install a second set on the front and have it seperatly triggered (Not reversing gear). Now I'm worried my PDC ECU is the wrong type. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Rover 75 2.5 2000 Club SE. British Racing Green. MEMBER NUMBER: MMMDCCXXVI Looking for: 7 seater

14th May 2009, 09:14	#63
Lates This is my second home Jaguar XE Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Coventry Posts: 4,321 Thanks: 56 Thanked 59 Times in 55 Posts	I suspect the vehicle needs to have the correct parts fitted prior to carrying out further fault finding.

14th May 2009, 11:41	#65
Lates This is my second home Jaguar XE Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Coventry Posts: 4,321 Thanks: 56 Thanked 59 Times in 55 Posts	My dealer has none of the forms that are required to be filled in to generate zcs codes. However I do have an alternate method being planned and my zcs codes can be reverse engineered The vehicle will have the correct parts fitted first, in the event of the system still not working,lets be honest is pretty likely, I have a spare black multiplug I can fit with sounder and yes it will work but not in an OE kind of way. Question is Dave, how did you retrofit and all worked ok ?

14th May 2009, 12:02	#66
Departed Retired -- Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: -- Posts: 3,785 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	I retrofitted OE too. Worked fine on the kitchen worktop so just installed it. With the speakers: I'm pretty sure the impedance needs to be right. I tried one speaker and just got ticking. Tried a second and it worked fine. In the car its A1, but testbook won't talk to it even though it's on kbus. I suspect that the vehicle config info is used mostly by testbook to decide what it shouold and should not be talking to. PDC Cruise and lo nav are all fitted but there's no option to diagnose them on testbook. Do we have a way of determining the codes if items are fitted? I remember some discussion a while back but it seemed to go quiet....

15th May 2009, 15:46	#68
Lates This is my second home Jaguar XE Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Coventry Posts: 4,321 Thanks: 56 Thanked 59 Times in 55 Posts	Later spec PDC ecu fitted and all is well Anybody need an old spec type with separate sounder