EU vote?

[Darcydog]

Originally Posted by mss

remember, we are gentlemen!

If you could try to remember that and not misquote me?

"What you are in fact saying........."

It does not have to be like this MSS - it would be better if we ALL respected others views.

[MSS]

Originally Posted by Darcydog

If you could try to remember that and not misquote me?

"What you are in fact saying........."

It does not have to be like this MSS - it would be better if we ALL respected others views.

And tomorrow, we all must remember that we are actually on the same side.

On that note, good night.

[wraymond]

Originally Posted by Darcydog

If you could try to remember that and not misquote me?

"What you are in fact saying........."

It does not have to be like this MSS - it would be better if we ALL respected others views.

DD: Ssshh. Mss has gone to bed. Quick, break out the spell book. You know, it's in the cellar, the one with the Esperanto alphabet.

[bobthebuilder]

Originally Posted by Polly

I assume you do realise that the WTD is written into UK law so wouldn't just be "gone"as your post suggests. I am however prepared to agree that a Tory government might want to repeal that bit of legislation, but we do have those rather annoying and unelected lords, to put a spanner in their plans.


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I know, but as you say, he'd be free to repeal those laws and he's already been asking for opt outs on laws relating to agency workers. Who knows what the House of Lords would do.

[topman]

Originally Posted by Polly

Bob... You are wasting your time repeatedly calling for the Brexit team to provide you with a trade model, THEY ARE NOT IN GOVERNMENT. We have already discussed that there are several options that the government could take, but only the government can decide which option we take, and no matter which option the government finally chooses, only the government will be in a position to decide on the exact terms they would consider acceptable.

No but there are some in the leave campaign who are in government, they could be clearer in what they believe should happen.

[bobthebuilder]

Originally Posted by Polly

I'm sorry Bob, but which part do you consider to be " my opinion"
1: has there been a new political party created overnight?
(Hmmm I might just vote for the Brexit party)
2: who will be governing the UK on the 24th June
3: who negotiated the 45% tax on whisky
4: do you think the tax on a new BMW would be at the same rate
5: if not, why not


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Clearly I was talking about the Leave campaign explaining what they would do post Brexit.

You can persist in this belief that Leave is not a political party and so under no obligation to explain what a post Brexit UK will look like all you like. The cold hard facts of referendum life are that people want to know! Otherwise a vote for Leave is just a leap of faith.

[Darcydog]

Originally Posted by bobthebuilder

Clearly I was talking about the Leave campaign explaining what they would do post Brexit.

You can persist in this belief that Leave is not a political party and so under no obligation to explain what a post Brexit UK will look like all you like. The cold hard facts of referendum life are that people want to know! Otherwise a vote for Leave is just a leap of faith.

Whereas voting to stay is an act of faith in the existing EU.

Something that even the Remain supporters admit needs "Reform".

Anyone seeing what the EU did to Greece cannot fail to see the horror the tragic consequences of a near collapse of the euro in that country.

The stark poverty, appallingly high unemployment, empty shelves in pharmacies and restrictions on Greeks drawing out euros from banks has had a profound impact on the political credibility and the economic viability of the EU.

The social Europe, its social market, its social conscience has been abandoned in its blind pursuit of austerity budgets.

A Euro collapse in a large country like Italy, very likely within three years, or two other countries, like Portugal and Spain, would have a devastating effect on the UK.

Whilst the Remain Camp keep demanding some sort of proscribed “budget” from the Brexit Camp - Why is the extreme issues that beset the PIGS never discussed by the Remain Camp?

A vote to remain puts the nations "Faith" into an organisation that has caused so much misery in a number of EU Member States.

If it boils down to "Faith" then my Faith would be in the UK and its people.

[bobthebuilder]

And right on cue, the Leave campaign announces it will honour all EU grants to the UK until 2020

But they don't make policy statements.....

I thought they had already promised all the money we give to the EU to the NHS? In fact, they promised more than we give since they used the made up figure of £350 million a week.

These numbers clearly don't add up, please don't fall for it.

[Darcydog]

Originally Posted by bobthebuilder

And right on cue, the Leave campaign announces it will honour all EU grants to the UK until 2020

But they don't make policy statements.....

I thought they had already promised all the money we give to the EU to the NHS? In fact, they promised more than we give since they used the made up figure of £350 million a week.

These numbers clearly don't add up, please don't fall for it.

The EU creates a hugely complex Budget from the Member States contributions then returns part of the Member States’ money but insist it is labelled from the EU. They have ensured that the instigation of legislation lies with the Commission not with the Member States and not with the Parliament.

As a country the UK gets back less from the EU than we pay in.

The EU pays Farmers to do nothing. If we paid our Farmers to actually grow something then we would be far better off.

[Gate Keeper]

100 Days post Brexit (speculative) if the 'exits' win

http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/06/b...irst-100-days/