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Can doctors even be really sure to what extent the effect of fighting off this virus had had on other condition(s) to which somebody has sadly succumbed? Certainly the number of excess deaths the ONS has reported so far is not encouraging, whatever their cause(s) may truly be. Over 50,000 and counting.....
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Eg mid treatment for cancer etc, compromised immune system, death may occur from pneumonia or another bacterial infection. Similarly a person contracting covid 19, their immune system goes into overdrive, causing a susceptibility to pneumonia or another bacterial infection, both patients die from pneumonia or other bacterial infection. Crucially, both patients are listed as dying from.complications of covid 19. Since autopsies would not be carried out in either, their deaths are both counted as covid 19 related. This practice of counting both was supposed to have changed, but I have stopped looking for the data. Sent from my SM-A600FN using Tapatalk
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Alan has already pointed out the difference, but I'm going to lay down a scenario for you. If I had fallen off my pushbike three weeks ago, and suffered a life threatening injury to which I eventually succumbed too, I would have been counted as a Covid death. Of course the fact I'd been run over by a car after falling off my bike was irrelevant It is quite easy to provide reasonably accurate data as to the trends that identify those in the population who are most likely to be adversely affected by exposure to the virus. This is of course not a definitive, and of course there is only one thing in life that can be 100% assured Financially, just in case you think I'm motivated that way, I could exist without any lifestyle adjustment for around ten years if I were to liquidate my company assets, however that is not the point.......if I were 30 years younger and was facing a future of mass unemployment with little chance of obtaining gainful employment, I would be very bitter that people who were either financially secure, or enjoy a bullet proof pension were so blasé as to assume the financial black hole currently being created was one that could be fixed. We have had worse diseases to face, and with greater attrition, yet the world didn't close up shop??? If the figures are to be believed as to the natural R rate of three, then taking into account the distinct possibility of the virus having been seeded in this country as early as January.......take a look HERE and assuming a seed of one person from the beginning of February to the beginning of lockdown fifty one days later, how many infections does that make??? 3 to the power of 51 = 21536 9396307555 7766310747, so can I ask a question, how come we are not swamped with critically ill patients, despite the stable door being shut seven weeks later?? The figures simply do not stack up, and to have the normal provision of healthcare service put on hold as a result of the mythical reproduction rate of this virus being three, is madness, as is the entire suspension of a country. It needs to be put into context, and the risk level along with it, I sympathise with people who have lost loved ones as a result of Covid infection, but no more than I would sympathise with someone who had lost a loved one to cancer, a heart attack, a stroke, road traffic accident or even old age. At the end of the day, if you feel uncomfortable or unsafe dealing with life as it being currently presented to us, it is your prerogative to deal with it as you see appropriate to both yourself and those you are directly related. It should also be mine and any others prerogative, to deal with life as they see fit, and within limits of what is considered reasonable to both themselves and those around them. This is a very binary choice, you either participate in life at a level you feel comfortable with, or you don't, we do not have a choice of when we die, but quantity of life must not be confused with quality of life, therefore we must make the best of the time we have, or forever suffer regret. Brian |
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The U.K. daily death rate is still worryingly high. It doesn’t seem to me that the virus is under control. I know we have to get on with restarting the economy, I’m just don’t have the faith in the UKs ability to track and trace flare ups.
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The top and bottom of it is a simple one, the risk to a person raises for each decade we have spent on the planet, and if you feel you are at risk, then stay at home.......... nobody will think poorly of anyone as a result of their personal choice at this level. Quite frankly though, if my time is up as a result of anything at all, then it's up. Worrying about it won't change a thing apart from having an adverse affect on my quality of life. The one thing that has improved my outlook on life immeasurably of late, is to stop listening to the daily waffle "briefing", or listening to the warring politicos.........it's rather refreshing Brian |
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I do however wonder if our rate is so high because we count everything and not like some other countries that are a "little selective" and massage their figures. |
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357 is far too many deaths in last 24 hours to have relaxed the rules starting when we did. I’m not worried for myself, I’m only concerned for the good of the country as a whole.
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The UK has become only the second country to report more than 40,000 coronavirus deaths, according to the latest government figures today.
By any standard, comparison or measure this is appalling. Hopefully, the media keep highlighting this issue, as each death is a personal family Tragedy. |
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